Mac: 00:01

There we go. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back. Fellow anime heads, it is time for us to talk about one of the biggest anime that came around quarter was it quarter four? We started talking Winter of 2024, Dandanan, which bursted onto the scene and took over Crunchyroll. Thanks to not only the theme, but the amazing animation, the humor, and the, if we wanna get into it, which we will, the emotional storytelling that goes hand in hand with the humor.

Mac: 00:41

You know what I'm saying? So hit the ground running, made it to the top of the charts and it was actually warranted. It wasn't like a phase, you know? So, you know, a quick little thumbs up, thumbs down from you guys. How do you guys feel kind of the same way when it comes to Dan to Dan?

Jacci: 01:01

Double thumbs up.

EJ: 01:03

And I feel like in no small part, the music itself, as far as the intro and was just it caught on like wildfire. I mean, you had, like, thousands of TikTok videos, Instagram posts.

Mac: 01:15

Oh, yes.

EJ: 01:16

People were eating it up. I mean, that's gotten like worldwide acclaim for the intro song. What up, Black?

Mac: 01:23

What up, Black? What's up, man? But yeah. So we got amazing news. Shout out to the one and only MRKSX from the Dat Phyllis music label.

Mac: 01:35

He hooked us up with a theme song. I just reached out. I figured we needed something of our own guys, you know? Not that there was anything wrong with the previous intro, but new year, new us. Reached out.

Jacci: 01:49

Yeah.

Mac: 01:50

He hooked us up with the audio, reached out to somebody over on Fiverr who hooked us up. And I'll tag their Fiverr handle description when we put this up on the YouTube channel and everything.

EJ: 02:00

Excellent work, yeah.

Mac: 02:02

Amazing work. And we're super stoked to show you this intro. Black says two bananas for day to day. You freak. What up CJ over there on Nightmares and NerdScapes?

EJ: 02:17

I don't know.

Mac: 02:18

So are we taking our shot prior to the intro?

Jacci: 02:23

Yeah.

Mac: 02:24

Okay. We shall do that. I thought you had a bottle of Soju taking it to the head. Was like,

EJ: 02:31

Oh, I would.

Mac: 02:31

Sir. I would.

EJ: 02:33

I'll do that next time I go to a Lotte Mart over here.

Jacci: 02:36

Nice. Oh, nice.

Mac: 02:38

Alright. Alright. Here we go. Cheers.

Jacci: 02:41

Oh, that's a sick shot glass, Willy.

Mac: 02:43

Oh, you know. My boy Naruto.

EJ: 02:48

They got so much at that Lotte store too.

Mac: 02:51

Gotta They do. Man, I'd be pouring the heaviest shots, man.

Jacci: 02:55

That's not a good lime.

Mac: 02:57

Alright. Now that that's out of the way, ladies and gentlemen, episode 13 of Eat The Cake Anime with our new opening starting right now.

Mac: 03:10

The following is a presentation of the Dot Healing Podcast Network, reminding you to always question the answers.

Intro: 03:39

Comcast. We cover anime today and on the times past. Listen and learn in that order then replay. Be entertained by Mac, Jackie, and EJ. Three holes doing way more than the most proven.

Intro: 03:50

You can pay the lion, but it's all in the approach. Originals and seafoods, the newbies and the each, it goes. The world's up in flames to the once more peaceful. The weapons are the shoe toed. Manga Naruto, Monkey D.

Intro: 04:01

Luffy, and a lot more that you know. Subscribe, hit the like. Give the algorithm like me. We're trying to get the same pie that Apple took a bite from. Join the conversation.

Intro: 04:09

Let us know if you can relate. If not, you still might be forced to eat the cake. And I may Hey. Eat the cake. Hey.

Intro: 04:17

Hey. And may eat the

Jacci: 04:38

That was so cool.

Mac: 04:40

Good. Was so cool.

Jacci: 04:43

Didn't expect to see us three pop up. I was like, oh.

Mac: 04:46

That's us. That's me.

Mac: 04:50

Yeah. So, yeah, it's dope. I love it. Again, shout out to my man, Mark, man. Appreciate that.

Jacci: 04:57

Yeah. Thanks, mom. Thank you.

Mac: 04:59

Shout out to Jackie. Cause he was like, what beach you want me to sample? She wasted no time coming back saying the creepy nuts, Bling Bang Bang Born. I was just like, I don't know how you're gonna make this work. It's a faster beat.

Mac: 05:12

He was able to slow it down, find a sample. I'm just like, bro, this dude is talented. And like I said, the freelance artist that hooked up the anime music video that hook, I mean, it all just came together and I just sprinkled a little bit on top of it. There we have it. There we have it.

Mac: 05:34

CJ's like, it's better than mine. I don't like it.

EJ: 05:39

Give it time. Give it time, CJ. Give it time.

Mac: 05:42

But without wasting any more time, we did the intro. We did our shots. I feel we should just jump right into creating the manga and start talking about this amazing creator and the story that they created when it comes to Dan to Dan.

Jacci: 05:58

Yeah.

Mac: 06:11

So, Jackie, what you got for us as far as the creator and some info on the the manga?

Jacci: 06:20

Alright. So biggest thing with the manga right now, for everyone that ever wants to get into and start reading it, now's the time because there's only 18 volumes out and it's still going on. Came out in 2021. And so far, it originally had 4,000,000 copies sold when it first got published. And when the anime came out, it doubled in sales to now 8,000,000 copies that's just continuously circulating.

Mac: 06:48

Mhmm.

Jacci: 06:48

Hi, mom.

Intro: 06:53

Jackie's Hi, Jackie's mom.

Jacci: 06:55

She she don't know she don't get any

Jacci: 06:57

of this shit. She's just here for the ride.

Mac: 06:59

The support.

Jacci: 07:00

I love it. Gave you the shots.

EJ: 07:01

Yeah. I love the support.

Jacci: 07:05

But yeah. So 8,000,000 copies sold since the anime premiered, which I think is insane because that's only like really after a year that or sorry, October 2024 to now since January 2025. That's crazy that doubled in sales just from like four months because of the anime. But for anyone that wants to know about the genres, action, romantic comedy, it's a supernatural thriller. The dude that created it, his name is Yukinobu Tatsu.

Jacci: 07:37

Originally, when he first started creating, I actually have a lot of fun facts about this guy because what I thought was really interesting was the creation of Dan to Dan itself and how it came to be, rather than so much, like, the exact specifics of the manga. So I can get in on into all that if you want me to.

Mac: 07:57

Go ahead. We're here for Perfect.

Jacci: 08:01

So, oh, I guess I should say like what it's about. So it's about two characters

Jacci: 08:07

for everyone that doesn't know again. These two nerds right

Jacci: 08:09

here, right behind me. Alright. Momo is the chick and then you got Ken Takakura, but she calls him Akarun and mostly it's just a play on words because he's super into aliens and stuff and he's an otaku, so she like kind of combines the things. But she believes in ghosts, so they kind of they meet on different circumstances. She's known as kind of like the popular chick.

Jacci: 08:33

He's kind of nerdy and gets bullied. She defends him like one day. They like I don't want say they bond. They actually get into a fight, really an argument about like what is the best. And they decide to prove each other like wrong by going to each other's opposite interests in scary places.

Jacci: 08:51

And then it just kind of goes from there and they go through all their adventures. But the creator, he tried to create other series that I guess were just like not doing well. One of them was called Fireball and I can't believe I can't remember what the other one was, but they were just not doing good. And then he started working with the editor Shi Hai Lin, who's the deputy editor in chief at Shonen Jump Plus who worked on, Chainsaw Man and is most notably known for editing Spy Family. So, now when he started working with him, at first, he wasn't able to produce really anything noteworthy.

Jacci: 09:30

He could draw really well, but there was no substance to create a story with and he kinda experienced what's known as like a writer's block. Right? And so Shihei or I guess Lin is the correct way you would call him, Lin sensei, realized that he had a lot of potential, so he just said, you know what? Screw it. Screw the what's known as, like, extensive nemu, which is like thumbnails or rough drafts used to outline pacing and character movements in manga.

Jacci: 10:00

So screw the restrictions. Screw, like, you have to do this. Let me just give you creative freedom, and whatever you feel, just start drawing something, and let's see what we got. And that's how he began building Dinodan. So it was just spontaneous creative freedom with a lot of the iconic elements were coming out of casual conversations between them.

Jacci: 10:18

So a lot of like the plot especially like a lot of it comes from I don't know if this is spoiling it but Pokemon gets something stolen from him and it's I I'm just saying it's fine.

Intro: 10:31

I think I think it's his balls.

Mac: 10:32

I think we could say, I mean, season part one of or I guess you could call this

EJ: 10:36

season Season two, I mean.

Mac: 10:37

Yeah. Season two comes out in a couple months. Like, everything's available on Netflix or Crunchyroll. You can go knock out all these episodes. So we could talk about it.

Jacci: 10:47

Okay. I still won't go super, super into detail with stuff, but the funny part's like so Okurun gets his balls stolen. And literally, like they do.

EJ: 10:54

And literally

Jacci: 10:55

he And I came out is like, while they're creating all these characters, they were drinking one night And the editor just randomly was like, and then he got his balls taken. And he's like, yeah.

Jacci: 11:07

And then they just decided to make that a thing.

Jacci: 11:10

So, like, there was there's no well, he wanted to not stick to, like, a static plot. He just wanted him to, like, create characters, come up with a fun, playful thing, and the creator doesn't like standard horror stuff like Ito. Sorry. I'm I'm gonna butcher his name. Jin Ito is a well known horror author in Japan.

Jacci: 11:31

Yep. You go on Netflix, there's a whole Jin Ito series where it talks about all the horror stuff, it's really creepy and scary. He doesn't like that stuff. So he wanted to but he likes horror and weird stuff, so he wanted to take a spin on it and bring comedy and playfulness and other stuff into it where you still get the creepy things and stuff, but then you also get, like, the fun stuff so you can enjoy the the horror. And even, I guess, to this day yep.

Jacci: 11:55

Banana. You know, I will say today yesterday, was running on the treadmill, and I don't I can't, like, run without watching something, and I didn't have any animes that I wanted to watch. But and I was like, you know what? I'll just rewatch the first episode of Dan Dan just so I can, like, get ready for this

Jacci: 12:12

podcast. Forgetting the really awkward scene Yeah.

Intro: 12:18

It's a

Mac: 12:19

like My

Intro: 12:21

Yeah. There's some

Jacci: 12:21

robot and they're trying to procreate, and they're bringing their bananas

Jacci: 12:25

out, and it's just this

Jacci: 12:27

slob thing. And it's like and I was like, I started fast forwarding.

Intro: 12:33

Was like,

Jacci: 12:33

most people are probably like, what the hell is this bitch watching right now? She got

Jacci: 12:36

head to head up in here in cardio

Jacci: 12:40

part. The on base gym. Like, oh my god. But yeah. So it it's really funny.

Jacci: 12:47

There's a lot of comedy. There's even, like, romance in it too, but it's like the romance part of it, I think, is so refreshing as well. The artistry, like Willie's gonna show some stuff later, but when you see the art so the dude that created also illustrated it. He's a fantastic artist. He's also worked on, what is it called?

Jacci: 13:08

Fire Punch and Hell's Paradise. He was he was an assistant to a lot of those, which if anyone's ever watched Hell's Paradise and seen the art that and

Mac: 13:18

sketches that he that he put up.

Jacci: 13:20

Oh, yeah. Like, he's just he's fantastic.

EJ: 13:23

He's gifted. I I love his perspectives, the way he does perspectives, especially with motion. Like, right there is a perfect example. The Mhmm. The action that's being conveyed plus the perspective of the two.

EJ: 13:35

Like, you're seeing both characters, but it's from it's it's just I think it's very impressive. It's different.

Jacci: 13:41

Well, he gets a lot of his inspiration. There's a lot of things he gets his inspiration from. One is the grudge and the ring. Other ones is a really popular horror called sorry, Sadako versus Kayako. I didn't know I didn't get to, like, research too much into that, but it's about, like, demons that are, like, inside or this demon that takes over this young child's body as a girl and is, like, inside of her.

Jacci: 14:10

And then they're, like, battling out of, like, whose body's who, basically. And I I guess it has a little bit of comedy to that as well. So he got a lot of inspiration from that movie as well as Ultraman, which was created back in 1966. It's a Japanese, like, hero thing that became, like, a huge pop culture phenomenon, and that also Ultraman also inspired Ant Man's suit. Ant Man's suit also inspired the Poke Ball for what that looks like, and then lots of inspiration for Dragon Ball z in general, the manga and the anime.

Jacci: 14:49

Yeah. So he had he had a lot

EJ: 14:51

of stuff or just run around and they're like Yeah. Like doing funny things.

Jacci: 14:56

And I guess there's, like, really interesting weird characters in Ultraman too.

EJ: 14:59

Crazy looking monsters in Ultraman. It's kinda like the the best explanation would be, like, it's a main focus of a care or instead of it being, like, the Power Rangers, it's just one dude.

Jacci: 15:08

Oh, look at that. That's insane, dude.

EJ: 15:10

Oh, I know. Just just the the work, the ink work alone. I mean, look at that, man.

Mac: 15:15

Yeah. That's that's crazy.

Jacci: 15:17

Yeah. The dude's just super talented. So the fact that he can take all these different types of horrors and then just create this weird world that just kinda draws you in and you're just like, it's creepy, but you're, like, having fun while also kinda creeped out while also, like, laughing at the same time. It's just this really joyous ride that I I really enjoy. The entire story that's bring brought about it.

Jacci: 15:44

The first season was amazing, and the characters and the personalities that he chose to also, like, bring into it. I from my understanding, a lot of it is just from casual conversations that he has with people. And then he gets inspiration from that, and then he just goes off with, like, whatever he wants it to be from there, which I think is really cool.

EJ: 16:05

Yeah. Well, they're huge into the supernatural and and anything like paranormal, like, you know, alien visitation and stuff. So that's that's just permeates

Intro: 16:17

through

EJ: 16:17

the whole And, you know, from what I understand is he took a lot of that as just drawing inspiration for just a period. You know, like you were saying about his writer's block or his idea block. He was like, he's always, you know, checked out different supernatural types of magazines or books on aliens and so forth. So he kind of incorporated that into the, you know, into his art, and then it just started flourishing into a story. So that's that's kinda that's kinda cool that it it's something he is actually into.

EJ: 16:48

So it kinda reflects his passion with the, you know, the the detail and and effort into his work. I mean, it shows. It's really nice.

Jacci: 16:58

Yeah. And I really like we talked about that there's no real plot. So there I don't wanna say there's no real plot. There kind of is. Right?

Jacci: 17:06

Like there's something going on and you can keep this sorta going for a while because there's just little things that are happening that's easy to keep it going. You can introduce new monsters and stuff like that. Yeah. But we noticed as we were watching it, me and Steven, we were like, yeah, this is there's not real any world building story or anything crazy like that. This is just a very simple plot, and I really enjoy the simplicity of it that it's just, like, comedy.

Jacci: 17:34

But then there's also, like, some not challenging, but, like, other intricate things that you know that there's other things you don't know about that they'll probably introduce later, but it's still very simp reminds me of Kaiju number eight because I think Kaiju number eight is also so, like, kind of a very, like, easy plot to follow and it but there's a plot there and it's it's fun. It's nice. And it's not

EJ: 17:55

The overall larger plot or larger story isn't really fleshed out or or shown to us completely yet. We're but because you're you're traveling through it with with the focus on two high schoolers. So it's their, you know, their interactions, their day to day, but then there's this huge overarching plot going on, be it through aliens and the supernatural. And they kinda touch on it here and there because both of them are linked to it through throughout the story. They get linked in different ways to this event.

EJ: 18:24

But I I thought it was a I thought it was a a different take. I mean, you hear a lot of just supernatural stuff.

Jacci: 18:31

Like Yeah. It's always just one or the other. I I was just about to say, I thought it was really cool that he decided to bring both Yeah. Together in a way, which I still don't understand how that's working yet. And the this dude's on straight vibes.

Jacci: 18:42

That's all he's on. He's like, whatever I'm feeling, like I kinda have like a path, but like as things come in, that's kinda like what I'll add to it, which I think is cool too.

EJ: 18:51

Was it

Jacci: 18:52

And it's just I'm along on this ride of vibes, man. Like, I'm so here for it.

EJ: 18:57

I don't know if I'm remembering correctly because, I mean but I could've swore Momo had mentioned it or just theorized in in one of the later episodes before the finale that or maybe maybe it's up I'm not sure, but they were talking about how possibly the the spiritual activity and the supernatural events, they started to link that to the to the aliens, the the which you do get to witness. And it's one of the theories is that the the supernatural events, not to protect humans but to protect the planet, are in in competition with the aliens. It's a battle between the two in a way, is what they hinted at. But that's why

Mac: 19:34

I said

Intro: 19:34

it's a big over it's

EJ: 19:36

a big overarching plot where the focus really boils down to two the friendship and possible romance between these two high schoolers, and it just starts to branch out. But, you know, I I feel like they kinda hinted towards that, but he hasn't he hasn't, you know, made any solid, like, this is this side, this is the other side. You know what I mean? There's no black and white definitions or boundaries here. So I don't know.

EJ: 19:59

Maybe maybe they'll get to that in this season. I'm I'm not sure.

Jacci: 20:03

Yeah. That's why I really I really like this. I like the creator. I like the editor. They play off on each other a lot.

Jacci: 20:09

I like that the editor gave him, like, just, dude, you are, like, clearly struggling, but you put I'm so glad this dude gave him a chance because he has created just, like, a masterpiece that is continuing to do really well and and it's awesome. Like, the the writing and the art style is just sick.

Mac: 20:26

Yeah. I mean, also coming from being an assistant working on Chainsaw Man in Hell's Paradise. Like, it you're I mean, you're you're coming from one banger to another banger and then Mhmm. To have yours blow up like it did, like you guys are talking about. It's I'm here for it.

Mac: 20:46

I will say the first episode is something like once you get past that, you know, the rest of the story starts falling into place very well. And to Eric's point, the grand scheme that you're kinda picking up from, some people are calling this part one, some people are calling this season one. But the fact that, you know, both of our main characters, one is into the supernatural, one is into the extraterrestrial, and then the big scheme is like, the supernatural is keeping the extraterrestrial at bay. You know, it's it that starts bringing into to oh, man. Like, it's crazy how a story like this, as goofy and as as full of silliness as it is, when you sit down and start looking at it and giving it a chance and allowing the creator to actually go past the initial shock and the gimmick of the first episode and all the humor, you know, let me eat your banana and all out of nowhere, right?

Mac: 21:44

People are just like, yo, what the fuck is going on here?

Jacci: 21:46

Yeah.

Mac: 21:47

So then you get into these, these greater stories in the manga that got translated so well into the anime is when you fight these yokai, they have a backstory and Mhmm. You realize what happened to them, what led to them. Almost like demon slayer when he kills one of

Jacci: 22:04

the Yeah. I was

Jacci: 22:05

just what they say. Reminds me of Demon Slayer.

Mac: 22:06

Yeah. So, I think it really picked up in when he was in the mount the mountain arc when he was fighting Rui. Right? And you start seeing the demons that Rui kind of forced to live with him, to be his family. Mhmm.

Mac: 22:21

And you start seeing when Tandral was dispatching him, seeing what their life was like before that. And then even when he gets to Rui, you see why he ended up being the way he was, forcing people to be his family because he never had that as a child.

Jacci: 22:36

Yeah.

Mac: 22:36

So the one with Silky Dancer, that episode broke the internet.

Jacci: 22:41

Oh god, I can't wait to talk about that.

Mac: 22:43

Broke the internet, right? So people are getting attached to these characters and even the silliness with the school mannequin, right? Mhmm. His Yeah,

Jacci: 22:56

I love that episode. Was like, my heart was goofy. But

Mac: 23:00

yo, when, you know, the sun starts coming up and old boy show up and you see, you know, what happens, he got hit by the truck. You're just like, he ain't coming girl, but it ain't his fault. Don't think he doesn't love you. And then he shows up. I'm just like, my man, my man Taro came through for love.

Mac: 23:17

It's small things like that that gets you involved into the story. But yeah, you hit it on the head to attempt your initial one fireball and then only run for so long and not get picked back up. Some people would be like, I guess it's not in the cards. You know? And to just come back and and give it another shot and Shonen's just like, bro, keep them coming.

Mac: 23:43

Keep them coming. It's amazing.

Jacci: 23:45

Give it out. I I have to hand it to this Lynn guy, man. Like, if it weren't for him, just, like, giving him that freedom of creativity, like

EJ: 23:53

I mean, I

Jacci: 23:53

Be like, look at how that's so sick. Like

EJ: 23:55

Just flipping through his his work, If I was the editor and I was flipping through it, I wouldn't wanna lose the opportunity for this man to put something out because he his work has so much detail and passion in it to you know, you're like, I gotta give this guy a shot. I don't care if it takes a little bit. You know, he needs to you know, he's got a story to tell. He's just gotta come to the, you know, that realization himself. Because I mean, it it it's it's amazing.

Jacci: 24:22

Dude, and apparently this guy too, like, by week is just drawing shit. It's it's, like, weekly. He's putting shit out constantly. So, like, that is the amount of detail he's pushing out, and this is weekly that he's doing that. Like, that's awesome.

EJ: 24:39

It

Jacci: 24:40

is. Like, look at that little detail of that bitch's lips.

Jacci: 24:44

Did get that?

EJ: 24:45

Not for nothing, but the transition from the manga to the anime is is amazing.

Jacci: 24:51

Yeah, the the anime the director did a really good job. I unfortunately, this time, I didn't actually do a lot of research into like the directors and the animators.

Jacci: 25:01

Yep.

Jacci: 25:02

Oh yeah, that's way more graphic in the manga. Yeah.

Mac: 25:04

Yeah. So the the manga is more, like, if you if you go through the manga yeah. Here's the here's, like, episode where where you're just like, yo. Yeah. What is going on here?

Mac: 25:14

Like,

Intro: 25:14

this part I'm

EJ: 25:15

usually like, what?

Mac: 25:16

What? What? Hey. Hey. My wife like Apple's looking at me like, so this is what we watching now.

Mac: 25:22

I'm like, I swear to God. I swear to God. Like, this isn't the main Yeah.

Jacci: 25:28

Okay. Steven and I, because we didn't see it on Crunchyroll because I don't think it was out on Crunchyroll first. It was out on Netflix first.

Mac: 25:34

No, it was Crunchyroll. It was like No,

Jacci: 25:36

it wasn't really? Dang. Okay.

Mac: 25:39

Well, initially, the first three episodes were released in some theaters. So you could watch the first three episodes of season one like a movie, like how they

Jacci: 25:50

release it. Okay.

Mac: 25:52

Those already came out, but a lot of people didn't check them out because it wasn't like a wide release and it wasn't well known, so nobody went to go check them out. So that's why episode one came out. People were jumping on here like, the fuck y'all got us watching out here? You know?

Jacci: 26:05

Yeah. Like, I saw it and I was like, hey, Steven. There's a new anime. I read something from someone saying like, hey. It's really good.

Jacci: 26:12

I'm like, but no one else has been talking about it. We should watch it. And then when that scene came on, we were like,

Mac: 26:20

oh. Was she not looking at was Steve looking at you like Should

Jacci: 26:23

keep going? Yeah.

EJ: 26:24

I know. It was it was

Mac: 26:26

I'm like, bro, if they I didn't get that, you know, like Crunchyroll didn't give me the, this is for mature audiences only. So I'm like, I'm assuming penetration is not about to happen here. Yeah. But it was getting, it was getting kind of close.

Intro: 26:39

She was sweating and salsa.

Jacci: 26:41

It was salsa.

Jacci: 26:42

But still, I was like, oh my god. I've. Yeah. Tentacle porn is about to happen right now.

Mac: 26:51

Yeah. The first joint. But looking at the, I think the biggest thing he wanted to do when it came to the anime adaptation is, like you said, Jackie and Eric, you were looking at the set pieces and the frames from the manga. It is kind of more of a darker, you can almost say it was like a horror. It like just looking at the frames, this a horror type?

Jacci: 27:15

You wouldn't think that it's gonna be like comedy, like the way it is.

Mac: 27:18

Yes. When it came to the anime adaptation, he was like, I wanna focus more on the humor side of it and not so much on the darker supernatural yokai side of it. So I think that, I mean, it probably would have found an audience either way, but I think going with the little lighter side with the comedy, the colors and stuff not being so dark and gloomy. I think that kinda led to more general audience picking it up and, you know, the embracing the reception being up. Because even if it was darker, I still would have watched it.

Jacci: 27:50

Oh yeah.

Mac: 27:50

Based on the, what I feel is a hole that needs to be filled when it comes to like the horror genre for anime. Like we had Uzumaki try to fill that in, but we all know how that went.

EJ: 28:05

Oh, that's a no no people.

Intro: 28:07

We don't talk about them.

Mac: 28:09

We don't The anime that shall not be there.

Jacci: 28:12

The older book. I still haven't read it, so I still I'm gonna go read it. I am gonna read it because I heard it's fantastic. It's a fantastic read.

EJ: 28:19

I'm sure, yeah, reading it would probably be a hundred times better than the experience for that. But I I mean, I think a

Intro: 28:25

good point

EJ: 28:26

is that there are numerous spots in this part one, season one, where it does take more of a darker, serious tone. You know? I think it's easier that he's he primarily brings you in on a much lighter, colorful, friendly, humorous note. So when you reach those ones, it's not just too, I mean, too harsh. Because we all know there's there's numerous episodes where it's just pulling on your heart.

EJ: 28:54

And if you're already in the dumps, like, it's already, like, super draggy.

Jacci: 28:59

Like the colors in that one. I don't like though this is what anime does sometimes. Anime does do a good job, but then there is the level of detail that does get missed out of some of the things in the anime that is in Sorry, out of the manga that is Sorry, in the anime that is out of the manga. Mhmm. As you can as you as we've seen with some of the stuff, like, the level detail even inside of Turbo Granny's mouth and in there, like, you can't really see it in the anime.

Intro: 29:27

Right. Yeah.

Jacci: 29:28

But it's still great. Like, I agree. Like, the the colors and everything that they did with it, I think gray grandma looks way better in the manga, though. She looks way more badass.

Mac: 29:38

She's bae

Jacci: 29:38

She's badass.

Mac: 29:39

She's bae in in any medium of the art.

Jacci: 29:42

That is money. Dude, you know, and, like, when you read read or watch, it doesn't matter, in the beginning, Momo talks back about how her grandma did this for her and, you know, she had, like, a tough relationship with her grandma because she was getting made fun of for doing all these like stupid rituals when she leaves the house and stuff. You don't realize that she looks like this young fucking guilt.

EJ: 30:05

You're like

Jacci: 30:06

Like, you don't look you don't realize that like grandma Momo is a fucking guilt. Like, to the max guilt. And you think she's just, like, probably just a nice whatever. And then she shows up, like, what? I think it's, like, episode two Yeah.

Jacci: 30:19

Or three?

EJ: 30:20

Three? Yeah. I think it's three in the morning.

Jacci: 30:23

And you're like, yo, dude.

EJ: 30:24

Yeah. Because I thought you see her. Yeah.

Mac: 30:27

But Yeah. Because episode two, they come back to the house, and then that's when the other yokai comes and attacks. And

Jacci: 30:34

Oh, she shows up at the end.

Mac: 30:35

Yep. She shows up at the end, and then, like, the third episode is the

EJ: 30:39

Combination of, okay, she is she is Obachan. Didn't even know that.

Jacci: 30:44

So when I see her when I see

Jacci: 30:46

her or I'm like,

Jacci: 30:48

yo. Give me some

Jacci: 30:50

give me some of that.

EJ: 30:51

But I mean, in a way and I think that this is a is a cool point too is he took a lot of the standard anime and manga tropes as far as the characters and totally went outside of it. It's not very common that this when you when you deal with a lot of animes in manga, the main female is not usually so extroverted and animated with everything. You know? Usually, that's left for another character, but or she'd be a side character, but he gave Momo much more personality, much more outgoing, much more expressive, you know, and a more modern, a modern more take than the traditional where the traditional the female characters would be more polite, submissive, withdraw you know, like, not so out outwardly, you know, emotional or and and she did that with Obachan too. I mean, literally, there I can't think of many other series where Obachan suddenly looks like she, you know, she belongs in a in a swimsuit as a swimsuit model

Intro: 31:52

or something. Right.

EJ: 31:53

It's like, that doesn't normally happen either.

Jacci: 31:55

Also, if you watch any animes like those or read any manga like that, you're either re reading a harem or think those mangas are called Yeah. Ren tie or something like that.

Mac: 32:04

I don't know

EJ: 32:04

what that's called. But, I mean, even the the Risket. The heroes, I mean, both of them, Momo, Okora, they're they're not the standard. Like, when they introduce more characters, her old childhood friend is more of the standard anime hero guy. The bigger, you know, physically, you know, you know, impressive kind of suave male.

EJ: 32:26

You know? They don't usually cast the dude who's in the back reading the, you know, the nerd magazine as as being the hero. So I think he he he pulled on a lot of things that make it more relatable as well. It's not just the standard stuff. It's a lot like relatable, you know, things with movies and and comics and anime and everything.

EJ: 32:45

With this, with Chainsaw Man, with, you know, JJK, it's it's all starting to be more modernized and the characters are reflecting more of the this generation or closer to this generation. As in the characters aren't all the heroes gotta be this, you know, stoic tough guy, you know, perfect haired badass who's you know, it's starting to and I think that's why this has such an appeal too is it's not just your standard tropes, your cliched characters. It's it's, you know, it's starting to step out into something where people are like, these characters are interesting because of the fact that they're not just your run of the mill people. You know?

Jacci: 33:25

Yeah. Yeah. I really like this creator, and I really like too that they're kinda just they have kind of a plan now since it's kicked off so well. So, like, the next I think that the next portion is already out before he gets to the next I haven't read it, so I'm not sure, what it's looking like now. Willie, you said that you've read it.

Jacci: 33:48

Right?

Intro: 33:48

Mhmm.

Jacci: 33:49

So I think that there's three different big arcs apparently that delve into more of the kaiju and some other stuff too, so I'm excited to see. Yeah. I know we're still talking on the manga, but like,

Mac: 34:03

just Yeah. Manga aside, like, we've talked about July is when season two is supposed to come out with the second part of, I guess, season one of Sockabotto Days as well as others. There's like five or about six nice and highly expected or anticipated anime coming out in July around the summer.

Intro: 34:31

So, yeah. Is that gonna Do you

Jacci: 34:32

know what volume that'll cover up to?

Mac: 34:35

Talk about the second part?

Jacci: 34:38

Yeah. Don't because there's 18 volumes out, so

Mac: 34:41

I don't know because I don't know how many episodes are in, you know what I'm saying? Kind of like if you're looking at solo leveling, right? The solo leveling, I think the Jeju arc is only what? Four chapters, I believe.

Jacci: 34:55

That's four episodes.

Jacci: 34:55

They're covering

Mac: 34:56

it in four episodes. So I don't know if they're trying to do a chapter or episode. I don't know if they're gonna let a certain part breathe or something

Jacci: 35:02

like that. So what I looked up is hold on. What is I I I found it. I just didn't know if I was gonna create it. But it said the Kaiju arc and two other parts.

Jacci: 35:17

Cursed house arc, the evil eye arc, and then the final episodes are potentially gonna cover the Kaiju arc. I don't know what any of those mean. Was

EJ: 35:25

the end.

Mac: 35:26

Yeah. So if you watched up to

Jacci: 35:27

the end of the

Jacci: 35:28

first part.

Jacci: 35:28

Yeah. Which that makes sense. And then evil eye arc, don't know what that is. And then and then, of course, the Kaiju arc. So I don't know where Kaiju arc ends in the manga or if it already has ended and they're already on the next part.

EJ: 35:44

I don't think it's ended. I think it's introduced it as part of the entire overall for maybe moving forward into the the the third part or third season. It might be the link that Cursed House is the link for first to second. The Kaiju arc may be the link for second to third. I don't know because they haven't actually set in stone whether or not the Kaiju arc's gonna make it fully into the into the manga I mean, into from the manga into the anime.

EJ: 36:12

Or is it, you know so they're not they haven't you know, we'll we'll find out this season, I guess. But Yeah. Supposedly the characters, they they hinted at least one of the characters from the Kaiju arc or the, you know, that portion is gonna be in the season. So it only makes sense. You know?

EJ: 36:28

I mean, how are gonna introduce that character if you're not gonna but, mean, we'll see.

Mac: 36:34

Facts. But, yeah, looking at the manga sales, obviously, you know, but it says here by November 2023, the manga had over 36 360,000,000 views on the Shonen Jump plus platform, so that many people went to go read it on the app or however you go and look at it, the website. And 3,200,000 copies in circulation by the same time, over 4,000,000 copies in circulation by October of last year and 5,000,000 by December of last year. So just a million in the yeah, it's getting up there. And then in North America, I think Black was in the comments saying he has volumes one through 11 and he's having problems

Jacci: 37:19

He can't find the others. Trying to find the other if Black if you're looking for the English translation, they might not have been translated yet or available in North America yet. That's why because it's still, what, March? And I think those volumes probably just recently came out. I don't know what the timeline is for when the mangas get released from Japan to The West.

Jacci: 37:40

Something. Yeah. I I imagine maybe, like, a few months. Like, I I feel like it's kinda like when they release movies, like, for example, Demon Slayer is coming out in July, but then the or something or June. And then the English isn't coming out until November or September.

Jacci: 37:56

So maybe it's like three, four months until the English translation comes out. Otherwise, you can bootleg it and just look it up and people do their best.

Mac: 38:04

To try to translate. Yeah. Yeah. Don't do that though. Support the

Jacci: 38:09

artist out here. You shouldn't do that. You should support the artist. This guy's sick. But I

EJ: 38:13

mean, it says up

Jacci: 38:14

to Illegal.

EJ: 38:15

Volume 14. Mean, I'm just checking, you know, normal book figures and stuff. They they set up to volume 14, but I think that's a preorder.

Mac: 38:24

Mhmm. So

EJ: 38:26

they may have up to 14 translated, but we don't know I don't know exactly where that hits as far as the, you know, as far as the stories are along in volume thirteen and fourteen. So

Mac: 38:38

I think with and and this is weird because you're looking at this and you're looking at the the top selling manga of all time. You know, you got One Piece, Case Closed, Jojo's Bazaar, you know, things like that. But some of these bigger ones, they don't have as big of actual physical copy sales. And I think we kind of talked about this technology wise when you can just bring it up and stream it, right? Or just read the app or read the manga from your phone or your tablet.

Mac: 39:10

So I think they're starting to incorporate that, kind of like the music industry where you don't have the actual physical albums and CDs selling anymore. It's like, how many streams you got? And we'll do some weird math and we'll say, oh, this equals this many albums sold, or this is how you get platinum. Yeah. Because when you look at how many streams it got on the app compared to only

Jacci: 39:32

And you said what? Three hundred and sixty?

Mac: 39:35

Three hundred and sixty million views.

EJ: 39:37

Million views.

Mac: 39:38

On the Shonen Jump Basically,

EJ: 39:41

the population of The United States Of America.

Mac: 39:43

And only 5,000,000 physical copies being sold as of December 2024. So that's.

EJ: 39:52

A small city.

Jacci: 39:52

Yeah. I wonder I wonder if they also include physical copies with like, you know, how people have their Ereaders also?

Mac: 39:58

Oh, like that would be that

EJ: 39:59

might be different, though. They might not count that because it is kinda like when you, you know, like with games, video games. You know, they they a lot of times when they're counting the sales and stuff that if they're talking hard sales because they're talking about resources. So they're laying it against the cost of resources

Mac: 40:16

cost of printing. Yeah. Making the game You know?

EJ: 40:19

That's why a lot of that is going away, and it's just I'm buying the rights to play the game or watch this movie via stream.

Jacci: 40:28

So. Of course, Crunchyroll store.

Mac: 40:32

Yep.

Jacci: 40:32

And if

Jacci: 40:33

you're a super fan like me, you get discounts.

Mac: 40:37

Anyway, so the manga, obviously, we talked about the the brilliant creator. We looked at some of the amazing art from it and it is time to get into the actual anime adaptation because I know Jackie, I'm assuming you did some research into the opening and you wanna talk about, you know, some of that stuff or I don't know, you're our music person, but it is time for us to get and dig into the anime adaptation.

Jacci: 41:17

I always like that transition when we get into the anime adaptation. I'm always like, yeah. Feels like an opening.

Mac: 41:26

All right. So first thing, obviously, it comes to making first impressions, a lot of these anime, they do put a lot of work into creating an amazing opening. So you, you kind of get the best of the best when it comes animation team to do something amazing, transitions, all of this stuff. And then you gotta look at your artists out there and be like, who do we feel can capture the energy that we are going to bring to this crazy story we got? And of course, I think they knocked it out the park with their choice.

Mac: 41:58

What do you got for us, Jackie?

Jacci: 42:00

On the opening?

Mac: 42:02

Yes.

Jacci: 42:03

Okay. So if you guys haven't heard of creepy nuts yet, which it's making it even creepier that I'm doing this and stroking my hair while I say that.

Intro: 42:12

It is.

EJ: 42:15

You're right.

Jacci: 42:16

In general though, besides talking about

Jacci: 42:18

the opening, just like a I'm just gonna,

Intro: 42:20

you know

EJ: 42:20

Like a villain sting like a

Jacci: 42:22

Yes.

Intro: 42:23

But movie hold up. Before you get into

Jacci: 42:27

it female villainous laugh, I I don't think I could try that.

Mac: 42:29

Can bring the opening up and we can have it run-in the bet, but we can't play the music because last time

Jacci: 42:34

we saw it,

Mac: 42:36

Japan was about to send fleets after us.

Jacci: 42:40

My god, dude. I just wanna be like, can you not just like love that we love you? Like Could

EJ: 42:46

you just buy the music and then you could say I was just listening to it?

Mac: 42:49

Oh, hell no.

Jacci: 42:50

Like, literally, I pay for a Spotify subscription. I pay for Crunchyroll. You're getting a portion of my money. Like, come on.

EJ: 42:58

Look. We're not making profit

Jacci: 42:59

off

EJ: 42:59

of

Jacci: 42:59

playing fucking battle with guys. I am literally like putting your stuff out here. Why are you mad? I'm saying this is yours. I'm not saying it's mine.

Jacci: 43:10

Don't want see you. Circle. See circle, Japan.

Jacci: 43:15

God bless it. Whatever. But I understand.

Mac: 43:20

I get it. Okay.

Jacci: 43:22

Anyways, if anyone hasn't even just, like, looked at this artist though and, like, even list he he dropped a new album. It's called Legion. It's really good.

Mac: 43:29

Mhmm.

Jacci: 43:31

He I say he. It's a duo. Mhmm. So Creepy Nuts, really awesome. They where they really got their debut for anyone that actually watches Mashle.

Jacci: 43:38

If you haven't watched Mashle, watch it, please. It's really great. The second season opening, they did an opening called Bling Bang Bang Born. And not only was that like a super popular song in Japan, but then it made the top 200 billboard worldwide. It was number eight on that.

Jacci: 43:56

And people were doing dances to it on TikTok. It was like a whole thing. But I have a lot on this opening, just so you know. So get prepared.

Jacci: 44:05

Okay.

Jacci: 44:06

So the whole opening is packed with a lot of references to Japanese urban legends, supernatural concepts, and even horror media. Like I said before, they played on to the same thing that the creator has. So the ring, the grudge, Sada chan, and Kaia chan. Lyric there's lyrics that talk about Sada chan and Sada chan and Kaia chan, which is the Sadoko versus Kayako horror film that I talked to you about from those movies. I'll when it gets to the one part, I'll tell you there's a part in here where Momo's dancing, and it's the same dance that Rihanna dances in where have you been in her music video.

Mac: 44:40

Yep.

Jacci: 44:41

And we'll get to it. I'll point out to it. But this song was so awesome. Like, when me and Steven turn on the opening and it talks it goes, like, into this, like, rap and then it goes right now, it's, in this really cool, like I can't explain the transition that it goes from in here. It's very like you're being taken on this, like, trend right here, this dance right here.

Jacci: 45:01

And I also have a clip of it showing side by side someone had from Reddit of showing them do it. But the harmony and the way that they have the song, the way that they create this vibe of you're going this transcendent journey. It's like the tones, it's very high and soft and you're like, oh, this is nice. And he goes back to rapping a bit. Then the chorus again is like really oh gosh.

Jacci: 45:25

These creators are so awesome. So their names are DJ Matsunaga is the DJ, a part of this duo, and then the rapper, his name is Arshite. Mhmm. So before they even met, this was back in, like, 02/2013. It's when they actually formed.

Jacci: 45:42

Arashite was actually a successful battle rapper, and he won the Ultimate MC Battle Grand Champion three times consecutively. And then DJ Matsunaga was actually a world renowned DJ and he won the DMC World DJ Championships in 02/2019. So these two dudes are just like

Mac: 46:04

The best of the best in their career.

Jacci: 46:05

Best of the best and just meet up randomly at some like DJ rapper, like, fucking meetup. That's all it was. And they're like, hey. What's up? Hey.

Jacci: 46:13

What's up? My name's this. My name's this. You wanna collab? Sure.

Jacci: 46:18

And

Mac: 46:18

then they make best friends?

EJ: 46:20

Yep.

Jacci: 46:20

Yeah. Yep. You wanna go make some songs in the garage? Yep.

EJ: 46:26

Do it.

Intro: 46:27

Do it.

Jacci: 46:27

Blink bling Baneborn. Yep. This is fucking number eight. What is going on? And then

Jacci: 46:34

you watch their music vid even their music videos because they they make their own music videos to the song to also kinda keep it apart from the anime and and and be on its own. Dude, the music videos are crazy. And even the music video to this one, thought was so sick, and it was so much fun to watch. These guys are just super freaking talented. They're really cool looking too.

Jacci: 46:56

There was a I will say, watch this at your own discretion and just a forewarning, it's a little cringe. There is a guy out there that does English translations of Creepy Nuts songs, so he will rap in but it'll all be in English. I didn't think it was bad. But when you listen to it, you're like, yeah, dude. I love the Japanese version.

Mac: 47:18

Yeah. %. I know exactly what you're talking about.

Jacci: 47:21

Oh, okay. Cool. I mean, it

Jacci: 47:22

was kinda cool because I was like, oh,

Jacci: 47:23

now I get to hear

Jacci: 47:24

the lyrics in English. But at the same time, was like, Steven was like, hate it. Turn

Intro: 47:28

it off.

Jacci: 47:29

I was like, okay. Fine.

Mac: 47:30

My man's

Jacci: 47:30

He's got this whole cool crazy like, it matches the song, but also it's his own or their own. You know what I mean? Mhmm. And it also in the in the lyrics too. So I talked about, like, how they mentioned, like, some notable movies.

Jacci: 47:48

The whole song itself though describes the underworld Yomi as a wonderland filled with entities like the ones that we talked about with the manga and it to imply the horror comedy crossover. A lot of times the lyrics reference the four four four forty four time invoking the superstition that four is an unlucky number. In Japan, specifically, they believe four is an unlucky number. They also use the song uses Japanese units of distance, one shaku, one sun, one bu to describe the physical proportions of entities adding a layer of esoteric detail if you will. Some of the lyrics that they have, Sino Kawara, that's a sandy this is actually really sad.

Jacci: 48:28

A sandy beach in the underworld from Buddhist legends where the souls of children who die prematurely go. Also, like, one of the most notable lyrics is is what he says. And that's like a a word that Japanese use to ward off spirits in Japanese. Mhmm. And then the part where it transitions to really like the soft, like nice part, it's like, Goddamn it.

Jacci: 48:56

I'm not Japanese. Alright?

Mac: 48:57

Yeah.

EJ: 48:57

What? You're

Jacci: 48:58

not. It means I'm inside, I'm inside, I'm inside, which is reference to that movie I talked to you about which is Sadako versus Kayako where that demon that's inside the chick, that's what she's saying the whole time is I'm inside. I'm inside. I'm inside.

Mac: 49:14

Yeah.

Jacci: 49:16

And then the Rihanna dance. I don't know. It's just there's a lot of stuff in here. It's just really cool. I probably listened to this song at least 69 times.

Jacci: 49:23

I know it's not even an exaggeration, like the amount times I've watched the music video, listened to the song, and I've listened to a lot of his other songs. So just aside from Dan and Dan in general, this

Mac: 49:32

Oh, yeah.

Jacci: 49:32

These two dudes are just sick. Like, everything is just so much fun to listen to. The way the guy raps is super fun. He puts this, like, cool twang I don't wanna say twang because I I can't tell if he has an accent. It's just the way that he emphasizes words and how he changes, like, a little bit of his tone is fun, and it's cool to, like, listen to.

Jacci: 49:53

And he kinda reminds me a little bit. You know how Kendrick Lamar doesn't actually dance? He just does, like, just random shit

Jacci: 50:00

Yeah.

Jacci: 50:00

All the time and does weird stuff. Like, that's where he kinda I can't say about lyricists because I don't know. Like, I can't compare that. But just the way it was, like, just kinda weird and how he just, like, kinda dances and chills all the time. And it's just him sometimes.

Jacci: 50:14

Like, I don't know. He's he's really I really like these guys.

Mac: 50:17

The thing I like about him is well, with a lot of rappers like, know, Kendrick and stuff, like it's just not rapping. It's not like a Ray Kwan or just somebody who just raps. Like he can do the melody like you did, like the bridge when it's like that part how the DJ can just flip it from like a, just a constant kind of like house party beat, like a house song just like a Jersey club beat and then it just, the bridge just comes in like a break, like a respite to all of this jumping around and you just like take a break and it's like, it's almost like you said, Jack, it's like a levitating, like

Jacci: 50:56

you

Mac: 50:57

feel like you're floating. And when you see the opening And

Jacci: 51:00

the colors, like as we saw in the music, like that you showed the opening, the colors with it.

Mac: 51:04

Yeah. So for him to go from rapping to be able to just go into, like, the harmony and be able to layer it, like, in the booth and in the studio and stuff, like, he's a talented artist. He's just not a rapper. Like, he's almost like Andre three thousand. Like, he

Jacci: 51:18

he's Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Mac: 51:20

He can he can rap. He can do. Oh, yeah. Like his ear for music and and these two working together. Like, it's it's it's an amazing pair.

Mac: 51:28

So, you could just go on whatever you use to stream your music, Yahoo or, you know, Yahoo. I don't even think that's a thing.

Intro: 51:34

Yeah. Child child Gary. Amazon.

EJ: 51:36

Yeah. Jackie was mentioning the inflection, the way he uses his wordplay, like the pronunciation, and the way he emphasizes for and and, I mean, some of his manner, especially when it in the video when their hands and stuff are getting bigger. It just reminded me of ludicrous.

Mac: 51:51

Yeah. Old school ludicrous, like, not taking himself in

EJ: 51:53

two series. Having fun. On his voice. Yeah. His melody, his flow stuck with the melody.

EJ: 52:00

You know what mean? And it kinda it gave a feel to the to the song. So it was more melodic than just rapping.

Jacci: 52:07

You

EJ: 52:07

know? As as Willie was saying, like, get, you know, you get Wu old Wu Tang. It's a lot of lyrical wordplay straight over a a beat. You know? Boom bap beat and there you go.

EJ: 52:20

But this was more melodic and upbeat. And then, like you said, when they bring in the the bridge, it it brings this calm to it. So it's like the total contrast, which kinda reflects a lot of what's going on in the show. Yeah. Contrast between her and him, contrast between spirit and alien, contrast between reality and this this other world.

EJ: 52:39

So there's a lot that contrasts in the song doing that. It's just kind of, you know, matches the feel perfectly.

Mac: 52:46

Yep. Yeah. Like a Tyler the Creator. Like, he just Mhmm. You can't just put him in one one basket.

Mac: 52:51

Like,

EJ: 52:51

you can

Jacci: 52:52

do a

EJ: 52:52

lot of things. Yeah.

Jacci: 52:53

Yeah. And I guess Otonoke because that's the actual song title is Otonoke.

Mac: 52:57

Yeah.

Jacci: 52:58

So I guess it's a combination of Oto sound and Yamanoke, which is mountain mystery. So essentially means mystery song.

EJ: 53:06

Mhmm. Well, that mountain even I think that the the mountain they showed, the staircase going up to the shore.

Jacci: 53:11

Oh, yeah.

EJ: 53:12

That's a very famous supernatural location. All throughout Japan recognize that. It is, like, featured numerous times through different supernatural magazines and so forth. It's it's a I can't remember the name of the actual location, but if you look it up, it's very popular. It's it's a it's kinda like to us trying to think of something that, you know, like how they talk about, like, Gettysburg or something here is, like, they always have ghosts of the civil war.

Jacci: 53:37

Is it like the Fushimi Inari Shrine in Kyoto?

EJ: 53:40

Yeah. So, basically, that's it's a it's a hot spot of supernatural. So is the tunnel. There's an actual tunnel that's reflective to the one I

Jacci: 53:48

have heard that.

EJ: 53:48

Yeah. They show with the Turbo Granny. That's actually part of a a supernatural, like, ongoing urban legend. So he incorporated a lot of these real world urban legends into his creation of this story. So it it's it's very it's cool, and I think that's another reason it spoke so well to the Japanese audience right away.

EJ: 54:08

I mean, 360,000,000 copies. That's that's that's impressive. So it's it's something people caught on to right away. Like, oh, I've been there. And and just looking at that, I I I saw a lot of parallels with other shows.

EJ: 54:20

Like, they're starting to do that more reflect real real world locations so people who enjoy it feel like, hey. I've actually been there, you know, or I could see myself walking there or take a picture and be able to share it. You know? So

Jacci: 54:34

Yeah. Yeah. These guys are awesome. I love them. They're on my plate, like, my rotation.

Mac: 54:40

Oh, yeah.

Jacci: 54:41

At least, like, twice a week, especially when I work out, like, I at least make sure I put either blink

Mac: 54:46

The the energy. The the energy.

Jacci: 54:48

Like, yeah.

Mac: 54:49

The beats per minute and stuff.

Jacci: 54:50

You ever see that meme where it's like, what's the song you're listening to? And it's like that like a really cool like, you're just, like, levitating like this. And I'm it's like, oh, a lot of people say it's Kingdom Hearts. Like, if anyone plays Kingdom Hearts and they're listening to the the opening before you press play, it's like ding,

Jacci: 55:07

ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.

Jacci: 55:11

That chorus part is what I think about where I'm like,

EJ: 55:14

yeah,

Mac: 55:14

this is But part two of the opening is not just the music, but also the animation. So the studio doing the animation, Science Saru, not new to the game. They've been around for a while. So 2014, they've done some things. I think the most notable thing that most people would, if depending on how into it, like Space Dandy.

Mac: 55:44

They've gone on to there's a short lived Cartoon Network show, Okay KO Let's Be Heroes. They did some promotional episodes. They did three of the episodes, episodes one, four, and eight. They did the animation for that. Devilman Crybaby, that's over on Netflix.

Jacci: 56:02

Yeah. Which makes sense.

Mac: 56:03

Check that out.

Jacci: 56:05

The one Scott Pilgrim takes off.

Mac: 56:08

That's oh my god. Me and Scott Pilgrim down for life forever. SP for life.

EJ: 56:13

That's that's really stuff right there.

Mac: 56:15

The fact that they Netflix gave us this one season, a continuation from the movie that I loved, and then they're just like, Oh, we're not bringing it back. Broke my soul to understanding.

Jacci: 56:27

Netflix stay doing that, man. They just like love playing on people's Come

Mac: 56:32

on. And if you haven't seen Scott Pilgrim, please go check it out. It's still on Netflix.

Jacci: 56:38

If anyone that works at Netflix is ever watching this or you ever watch it at some point in your life, come on, dude.

Intro: 56:45

They also Stop doing that.

Mac: 56:47

They also did two short films on the Star Wars Visions back on Disney Plus when they had like, I think it was like several different short stories that were done by different animators. So they done the think it's the Akakiri and then the TLB one. So they did those two.

EJ: 57:06

That was impressive, actually.

Mac: 57:08

Yeah. So, I mean, this and and then, of course, right from Scott Pilgrim takes off, they're like, well, if you don't want us to do that anymore, I guess we can put all our attention on Dan to Dan now, which I'm not complaining.

Jacci: 57:20

I think.

Mac: 57:21

But it

EJ: 57:22

was cool to see it come I mean, and the art for the Scott Pilgrim Thanos totally up, but for for the Netflix one, I mean, was it was spot on with all the, you know

Mac: 57:31

That's the first thing I said when I saw the actual animation for Danded and I'm like, I feel like I just seen this on Scott Pilgrim, you know, and once I found out it was the same studio that did it, I was like, so I haven't looked into it. I don't know if Netflix was like, we're not getting it back or if they picked up Dandedan and they were just like, we're gonna focus on Dandedan and we're not coming back to do more Scott Pilgrim. I don't know how that worked. I gotta look into that, but I was hurt when Scott Pilgrim fell off, but seeing how Dan to Dan kinda came in and science, you know, Saru is still out here doing what they're doing. I'm not upset about that.

Mac: 58:06

And word on the street is

Intro: 58:07

Oh, I There's a

Jacci: 58:08

Willie, I'm gonna break your heart. I I looked it up.

Mac: 58:11

Netflix cut them off?

Jacci: 58:13

Yeah. Well, they said that apparently the reasoning they canceled it is O'Malley, which I think is the creator of

Intro: 58:21

that.

Mac: 58:21

Brian O'Malley. Yeah.

Jacci: 58:22

Mentioned that they put everything they had into the first season wanting it to be a self contained masterpiece.

Mac: 58:28

Oh. So it was never planned to be a second season.

Intro: 58:31

More to go

Jacci: 58:31

on. So

Mac: 58:32

Then why did it end the way it did? Never mind.

Jacci: 58:34

I don't know. I never watched it. I can't tell you. Never mind. Look that up yourself.

Mac: 58:38

But I

EJ: 58:38

was curious because it was kind of a a not necessarily cliffhanger, but ends with, you know, possible or like

Jacci: 58:46

Netflix and thrills.

Mac: 58:47

We never will never get Netflix and thrill because they just fucking come out with banger shows and they're like, fuck it.

EJ: 58:52

Yeah. Then they drop it and they come out with garbage like army of the dead.

Mac: 58:56

Or maybe, like I said, I mean, the creator Brian O'Malley, if he's like, this is it, you know, this is the story he wanted to tell, fine. Yeah. He's he's a weird guy. You know? No no offense.

Mac: 59:10

You know what I'm saying? Like, he he created Scott Pilgrim in that world and it's up to him. That's his property if he wants to cut it off. But Yeah.

EJ: 59:17

But there's

Mac: 59:17

Brian Brian

Jacci: 59:18

family, that's as early as, like, 11/20/2024. That is, like, the recent update. He I guess he came out on Twitter or x, whatever you would call it and said,

Mac: 59:28

no. Brian, if you're listening. Why? The fans want it. The fans want more Scott Pilgrim.

Jacci: 59:34

I don't care if you attended for this to be

Jacci: 59:37

a masterpiece.

Jacci: 59:38

And he's a good What

EJ: 59:40

are you doing?

Mac: 59:40

What are

EJ: 59:40

you doing, Brian? Heart, Brian.

Mac: 59:43

But they are also on deck in 2026 to, I don't know if it's a movie, but there's a ghost in the shell project that they're working on. I don't know if they're revamping it. If they're trying to tell another story with another, you know, and and that's my thing. You can keep it in the Ghost in the Shell universe. You just don't need to keep using the same protagonist.

EJ: 01:00:01

I I wish they do that more often. Like, continue with different characters in the same universe.

Mac: 01:00:06

Yes. Not.

Jacci: 01:00:07

Yeah. Like, I just the amount of times that they have done some type of something of Ghost in the Shell at this point and it's failed, like, miserably every single time, they just need to stop. Everyone needs to stop. Just stop. Just stop doing it.

Jacci: 01:00:18

A lot

EJ: 01:00:18

of effort into it too. You have some that are have amazing art. It's just you're not gonna follow the first story with the same characters and then change them all up and expect everyone to be like, yeah, roll with this. You know, I mean, what made it great was the characters from the first one.

Mac: 01:00:34

Yeah. This

EJ: 01:00:34

will work for me. But I mean, you know,

Mac: 01:00:37

this will do. Nobody's doing that. Nobody's gonna settle when they've already seen what what the Pika is.

EJ: 01:00:44

Exactly. Yeah. It so

Jacci: 01:00:47

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. This is sick. Yeah.

Jacci: 01:00:51

It's the animation studio, I was like, yo, this is the colors. Everything. Like, there was never a time where I was watching, especially when the scenes fight scenes came in and, like, things like, the panels are happening really fast Uh-huh. That I was like, oh, they skipped over some of like the animation for that or made it look shitty. Like, no.

Jacci: 01:01:13

Everything was just pristine, looked great. Just awesome.

Mac: 01:01:19

Yeah. And when you when you talk about and we we looked at some of the the side by side comparisons, I love it when they try to stay as true to the manga as possible, but they know when it's time to take some kind of artistic liberties because this is something that's in motion, we gotta change something up. Right? We can't go one for one, you know, with each each frame, but for the most part, like they stay true to the the manga and and what the actual creator was intending for each each scene. The fact that they stay in touch with him and he kinda guides them like, hey, I know you're telling this story or this arc.

Mac: 01:02:01

I don't want it to be as dark as it is in the the manga. So let's figure out how to tell it or translate this to the to the anime and the the actual motion. Yeah. Animation without losing too much from, you know, the the actual con the context of

EJ: 01:02:17

the The selection of colors really does a lot for that too. Because I mean, it's a easy way to change the mood of a certain frame that you're trying to bring to,

Mac: 01:02:25

you know Going from black and white to actual

EJ: 01:02:28

Yeah. Because when you're looking at the manga, that black and white and that that detail that Jackie was talking about, sometimes it's so crisp and and really reflects like a a darker moment, but then they could just colorize it and add some stuff that, you know, to take a little bit of the edge off. You know? A little bit of the emphasis on the severity of the situation can be reduced by just adding some of the more vibrant colors and taking a little bit of the the detail, you know, maybe on a turbo granny to where she's not as detailed, not as fearsome looking. She looks a little less intimidating.

EJ: 01:03:07

I don't know. That that could be the goal, you know, when they wanna translate it to to the anime.

Jacci: 01:03:15

Yeah. I one thing too that I wanna talk about a little bit about the anime too besides just the animation is the voice actors.

Mac: 01:03:23

Thank you.

Jacci: 01:03:23

They could not have selected a better cast for the voice actors. And and really why why I wanna say this is one thing that I I don't know why, but I love Momo's voice the best, especially when she gets really mad.

Mac: 01:03:39

Now are you watching sub or dub? Sub. Dub?

Jacci: 01:03:43

No. Sub.

Mac: 01:03:44

Okay. Because I listen to I listen to both. And this is one of the rare animes where both the English voice actors and the Japanese voice actors are are knocking it the fuck out the park. Oh, sweet.

Jacci: 01:03:57

I

Jacci: 01:03:57

got I did watch the first episode in dub, did not hate it at all. Watched it in sub after, didn't mind the dub, and I was like, okay, this is so good too.

Intro: 01:04:07

Yeah.

Jacci: 01:04:08

But I like the sub better because the way that Okurun and Momo interact, especially when they like kinda fight, the way that the voice actress for Momo like changes her voice, especially when she's getting angry and and just increases and her voice cracks.

EJ: 01:04:26

I agree.

Jacci: 01:04:26

And they just go back and forth. It's so hilarious to me. Like like in this example, like, way they would be screaming at each other about what they think or what should happen or whatever, it's so comical, but, like, the way I don't know. I love listening to it. It's not annoying.

Jacci: 01:04:42

Yeah. I love her voice actress. And I looked up, like, who else she voiced because I couldn't she didn't sound familiar. And, honestly, like, the only other anime I watched that she voiced someone was and I didn't even watch it. I actually read the manga.

Jacci: 01:05:00

It's called Her Blue Sky in English, and it's called Ao Haru Ride in Japanese. And she's the main female character on that one, but I never watched the anime, so I don't know. And then I'm just thinking of, like, ones I know people have watched or, like, I've seen that are popular. And the girl I like forgot her glasses is another one, which is, I think, a slice of life romance. But the other ones that I read, I'm like, I don't know any of the I haven't watched any of these animes.

Jacci: 01:05:28

So she's like a newer not a newer, but not a she's not in super, super popular anime. So I really liked her. And even the character voice of or the voice actor for Okaroon too, he's really great. Who I don't know. I actually wanted to know if it was the same I didn't look that up.

Jacci: 01:05:48

If he is the same voice actor when he switches to Ken Takakura, if you will, is what they they call it because it's what he's the really like, oh, this is such a drag. Oh, is taking so

Mac: 01:06:00

much time.

Jacci: 01:06:01

What a bother. Yeah. I guess I have to do this. He's, like, super cool. Right.

Jacci: 01:06:09

But, yeah, I I just think, like, even, like, Turbo Grannies, like, for like, dude, it's just the cast. I didn't I didn't get too far in the episode, so you can talk more about that, Willie, for, like, the the dub. Mhmm. I really just watched the first episode with that, and I thought everything, like, just it was super fun and really great to listen to. And the voice actors and actresses are just, like Yep.

Mac: 01:06:32

So the the two main for the dub, you got for Momo, it's Abby Trott. And if you listen to if you listen to any dub anime, Nezco and Demon Slayer, if you listen to the dub Demon Slayer, she voices Nezco and Demon Slayer. Veronica in Seven Deadly Sins, she voices Indra in Naruto Shapudin, And she also does like voice acting in video games. She does Wonder Woman in the multiverse, April O'Neil in the Nickelodeon Ninja Turtle games and stuff like that. But AJ Beckles is Ocarun and the chemistry these two have almost as like you were talking about the Japanese voice actors.

Mac: 01:07:13

It's almost like they're in the booth at the same time and they're literally like reenacting the scene as they're doing it. Like you, the yelling back and forth and even the short, the small like awkwardness when you get into the later episodes of Momo, like trying to hide her feelings about, you know, Okroon. And she, she, like the one episode where she's looking for him and she turns the corner and she sees Okroon laid on the ground with old girl laid on top of him and she's kissing and like that shyness, like she's hurt, she feels betrayed, but she can't let him know because she doesn't want him to know that chemistry and that will they won't they, I'm not a big fan of that, but in this, I'm just like

Intro: 01:08:02

The way

Jacci: 01:08:02

they do it though is again, like, it's very refreshing. Like, that's why I say the romance, it's just refreshing the way that they have it because it's not, like, annoying. It's more like, okay. Well, this makes sense.

Mac: 01:08:15

Uh-huh. Yeah.

Jacci: 01:08:15

Why it's like that?

EJ: 01:08:16

It's more believable and it but it's not Yeah. Over the top.

Jacci: 01:08:20

Yeah. Did I as I looked up the voice actor, I forgot for Kent or yeah. Kent Takakura or whatever, Okurun. I completely forgot when Steven and I first watched the episode. I paused it and I was like, What?

Jacci: 01:08:34

Who is that voice actor? I was like, Steven, I know who that is. And he's like, Who? And we played it more and I was like, Yo, that's Tanjiro from fucking Demon Slayer. And as I'm looking it up, I yeah.

Jacci: 01:08:46

He is the the Japanese voice actor in maze. He has voice a lot. So he's voiced. Tanjiro, he's voiced, ironically enough, Ken from Tokyo Ghoul. Mhmm.

Jacci: 01:08:57

Kanaki, He voiced Kosei in Your Lie in April. So Adima, saddest anime ever. If you ever watched Aldo Noa Zero, which I did, he voiced Inahu Kaizuka. He's also oh, he voiced Takami in Food Wars? That's crazy.

Jacci: 01:09:15

He also voiced I'm trying to see, like, he was in undead unlucked. Sakamoto days. I haven't gotten that far, but he's Yoichi Nagumo. In a lot of Yu Oh. He's actually dude.

Mac: 01:09:32

He's he's in high demand. He's in high demand.

Jacci: 01:09:34

But the

Jacci: 01:09:35

the biggest ones he's in, he's also Grammy Thome Thome oh, he's Thomeu and Bleach. Bleach.

Mac: 01:09:41

Yeah.

EJ: 01:09:41

Wow. The Dang. He is busy, The

Mac: 01:09:45

American voice the English voice actor also voices Grimmy in in Bleach as well.

Jacci: 01:09:52

That's funny.

Mac: 01:09:53

He also does You did see how

Jacci: 01:09:54

the similarities. They really do try to pair up the

Mac: 01:09:57

Yeah.

Jacci: 01:09:57

Oh, he you said he voices Kakashi?

Mac: 01:09:59

No. Hengaki in I don't know if you watch Tokyo Revengers, but he voices Hengaki.

Intro: 01:10:03

Oh, have it.

Mac: 01:10:04

Yeah. Tachihara in Bungal Stray Dogs. So

Jacci: 01:10:08

That's really great. Yeah. Really great voice. Yeah.

Intro: 01:10:12

I wonder if he's a grandma.

EJ: 01:10:13

He really can make or break, so it's very important because

Mac: 01:10:16

Oh, %.

EJ: 01:10:17

Especially when they dub it. I mean, there's been atrocities that we've all seen. It's like

Jacci: 01:10:22

I mean, yeah. If you watch

Jacci: 01:10:23

fucking Attack on Titans fucking English dub

Mac: 01:10:27

Chill. Chill.

Jacci: 01:10:27

Okay. Sorry. I will say, so Steven and I get into arguments not arguments, but, like, we'll go back and forth because Steven will constantly show me the one clip in English dub of when his name is escaping me, but it's when the monkey fucking titan is shooting all the rocks and everyone's about to die, and that's when old dude, lieutenant colonel dies or whatever. I can't even remember his name right now. But his that scene in English dub, and it's actually pretty sick and it sounds great.

Jacci: 01:10:59

So he shows me all the time. But then I listen to Aaron's voice in English dub. And I'm like, what are we talking about right now?

Jacci: 01:11:06

What are

Mac: 01:11:06

we doing?

Jacci: 01:11:07

Just because one dude is good.

Mac: 01:11:09

Yeah. And what are we

EJ: 01:11:10

It it sabotages the emotion of the scene. It it sabotages the the character to where I mean, you'll be watching it and and, you know, and the dude sounds like a badass, and then you switch over to Dub, and you're just like,

Intro: 01:11:23

it's like

EJ: 01:11:23

they got Carrot Top to play somebody. You're like, what the fuck happened?

Intro: 01:11:28

Carrot I'm just like,

EJ: 01:11:30

this is the worst that

Intro: 01:11:31

Well, it's

Mac: 01:11:32

it's one of those things. That's why I'm trying to as these come out, like, I'm trying to watch, you know, I end up watching an episode twice, right? Cause I watched the sub then I watched the dub. The sub will come out first then the dub. So I try to do that because if you go so long watching the sub and then you listen to the, like you're automatically gonna be like, this is not for me.

Jacci: 01:11:53

It's like fresh again.

Mac: 01:11:54

And I'm trying to get into the habit of watching both sub and dub, because when you go to these conventions, the Japanese voice actors are not showing up to these things. Right?

EJ: 01:12:03

Yeah.

Mac: 01:12:03

Right. You know what I'm saying? So,

Jacci: 01:12:05

when Yeah, it's hard because I

Jacci: 01:12:05

go to the Comic Con and I'm like, I don't

Mac: 01:12:07

They're like, here's the voice of Tanjiro. No. The fuck you're not. But he really is. You know what I'm saying?

Jacci: 01:12:11

Like, it's Exactly.

Mac: 01:12:13

I don't wanna poo poo on the skies. What are you? What are

Jacci: 01:12:15

you doing here? Get out

Intro: 01:12:16

of here.

Mac: 01:12:16

Who are you? Where's the real Tanjiro?

EJ: 01:12:18

Yeah. You're about as much as voice as I am.

Jacci: 01:12:21

Okay?

Mac: 01:12:21

Hey. I voice Tanjiro. No. The fuck you don't. Like Yeah.

Jacci: 01:12:25

No. My sister's name

Jacci: 01:12:26

is Nezuko, and she has a problem.

Mac: 01:12:30

So

Intro: 01:12:31

Like Like, what?

Mac: 01:12:33

She can't be a do you

EJ: 01:12:34

know they have to rewrite certain lines or you know

Jacci: 01:12:37

I keep my sister in a box.

EJ: 01:12:40

They come across words or expressions that just aren't known to English speakers. They kinda have to Mhmm. You know, become a little bit creative. Mhmm. But sometimes it's just it's just bad.

EJ: 01:12:52

And I mean, the worst is if I ever get to watch any of these was my mother sitting there.

Mac: 01:12:58

My mother

EJ: 01:12:58

my mother is the immediate that's not what they're saying. And I'm like, I I I pretty sure you. I know, mom.

Mac: 01:13:04

Just let just let me have these subtitles, please.

EJ: 01:13:06

Yeah. Just let

Intro: 01:13:07

let me watch some.

EJ: 01:13:08

But I keep Let

Mac: 01:13:09

me I mean Let me have the subtitles, Bob.

EJ: 01:13:12

And I mean, it's I I grew up with that. You know, my mom there checking in and letting me know that I'm not getting the full story a lot. So, I mean, there was only a couple of occasions where my mom has come and and given us the the actual, you know, translation if we didn't have the other version. And I mean, sometimes you miss out on a lot, you know, and it it it sounds it sounds unimportant, but things like Street Fighter, you know, and so forth, like the the movies and stuff. I'd be I'd be watching that or the series when I was, you know, a teenager and my mom would be like, oh, that's that's strange.

EJ: 01:13:49

They said this. And I was like, oh, that's absolutely not what they told us. They said, you know, so it it makes it makes a difference. And I think that it shows when they have a show where they've put so much effort into getting the actors to be similar, the voice actors

Mac: 01:14:04

Uh-huh.

EJ: 01:14:05

And to be able to convey that realism, like when like Jackie was saying, like Willie was when you mentioned, they seem like they're in the same booth or they're their chemistry and an interaction

Jacci: 01:14:15

What drag.

Jacci: 01:14:15

Is

EJ: 01:14:16

great. You know? It's like, it feels real. They have that bond.

Mac: 01:14:23

Yeah. Here's the trailer for season two. So again, you kinda see the Evil eye. Is getting more into the darker thing. Like the curse house is gonna be pretty epic.

Mac: 01:14:35

And I love how they don't get away from the comedy and stuff, but they do kinda ramp it up when it comes to like the, this is the seriousness of the shit that y'all be going up against. Like, there were some pretty serious people they went up against last episode, but now this is like boss level type stuff. I'm surprised they didn't turn this arc into like a movie, but I don't want them to start doing more of the movie stuff when it comes to capturing the whole arc, like how they did. If it's a small enough arc like Mugen Train for Demon Slayer, cool, knock that out the park, right? We don't need twelve, eight episodes of that stuff.

Mac: 01:15:12

But for for this, I like how they're doing it. I'm not mad at it at all, but I I don't see season two not doing what season one did, if not better, when it comes to Dan to Dan.

Jacci: 01:15:26

I looked up Mayumi Takami, like what else she's voiced, the Japanese or Japanese voice actress for Turbo Granny.

Mac: 01:15:39

Yeah.

Jacci: 01:15:40

And she voiced Luffy in One Piece, but in Stampede, which is a movie, I think, which I didn't realize that. And she voiced Krillin in Dragon Ball Super.

Mac: 01:15:57

She

Jacci: 01:15:57

also voices Yajirobe in Dragon Ball Z and Fortune Teller Baba. And then she also voices she's in a lot of older ones like if you ever watch Urusei Yatsura, which is really old. Sakura Wars is old. She was also Kuenma, if anyone watches the Yuhawk show. But I guess it's specifically Kuenma in the movie, which I really hate sometimes when they're like they have movies come out and they choose to have different voice actors or actresses for the movie.

Jacci: 01:16:32

It doesn't ever make sense to me, but she's in a lot of older ones. So this is the most newest one that she's been in is Dan to Dan.

Mac: 01:16:40

Oh, so the voice the English voice actor for for Granny is Carrie Walgrin. And apparently she's she voiced Robin from Witch Hunter, Robin.

EJ: 01:16:54

Okay.

Mac: 01:16:55

Oh. So on the on the dub version. So, I mean, I'm just scrolling through just looking at and and like I said, you know, I'm trying to get more into giving the dub in the American or the English voice actors a shot. So looking at what they do, she voiced Fu Kasumi from Samurai Champlain. You know what I'm saying?

Mac: 01:17:15

So she's voiced some some

EJ: 01:17:17

She's got experience.

Mac: 01:17:18

Yeah. And very high acclaimed, you know, anime. It's not like she's just

Intro: 01:17:24

out of

EJ: 01:17:25

their shoes. Is changing.

Jacci: 01:17:26

Oh, no. Sorry. She is the main actor. Actor of Luffy. Just kidding.

Jacci: 01:17:31

She's the main actress. Oh. Mayumi Tanaka. That voice is Turbo Granny. My bad.

Jacci: 01:17:37

Sorry.

Mac: 01:17:37

Because as she's talking as Turbo Granny, I'm just like, this is like Luffy ish. Like, if you just put a filter over Luffy's voice kinda, you can kinda hear it, but

Jacci: 01:17:47

I didn't I didn't even hear it, so that's crazy. Now I'm gonna go back, and I'm gonna really listen.

EJ: 01:17:51

Maybe they're maybe they're trying to improve it. I mean, it's been a complaint for all anime fans for decades now that the dub versions are just terrible. Maybe they're putting a little more like, alright. We can't. We gotta do a dub.

Mac: 01:18:03

We we can't

Jacci: 01:18:03

do dub. So in the nineties, early '2 thousands, dub was fine. They were actually doing a good job, but then like

Mac: 01:18:10

Well, to

Jacci: 01:18:10

be honest thousands and on

Mac: 01:18:12

Early, like, late nineties and stuff, all we knew was dub. Like Yeah. Dragon Ball was dubbed to

Intro: 01:18:20

me. Mhmm.

Mac: 01:18:21

When I heard Goku's Japanese voice, I couldn't

Jacci: 01:18:25

hear Awful.

Mac: 01:18:26

I I I was like, this is a sin.

Jacci: 01:18:29

Even to this day, I have to watch Dragon Ball Super end up. I cannot

Mac: 01:18:33

watch it.

EJ: 01:18:34

Son. And that's be that's like Willie said. We just didn't know. We didn't have any other options. So that's what

Jacci: 01:18:39

we Like, Fullmetal Alchemist, I tried watching that in sub. I was like, absolutely not. This is dub. Yeah. The voicing the voice actors in all of it in dub are just pristine.

Mac: 01:18:51

The only one I flipped

Jacci: 01:18:52

You Hakusho, same thing.

Mac: 01:18:54

The only thing the only one I flipped was, was Bleach. Because Bleach was

Jacci: 01:18:58

coming on Adult And the

Mac: 01:19:00

English voice actors knocked it out the park, right? I'm, I'm all in. I got stationed over in Korea where we didn't get Adult Swim. So then I, that was me and Limewire, you know, I was risking my laptop's life out there to get episodes. The only thing I could find is the sub versions, but the first sub one I looked, like, this is just when they got to Seoul Society and they started like realizing Bancais.

Mac: 01:19:23

When I heard that Bancais Dude,

Jacci: 01:19:26

it's hard.

Mac: 01:19:27

I was like, yo, that shit hits. Then

Jacci: 01:19:29

then the Japanese version

Mac: 01:19:30

Yeah. And then all of a sudden, you know, Limewire is like, here's the English dub. I'm like, finally. And I started downloading that. And I'm just there like, Bancais.

Mac: 01:19:37

I'm like, woah, woah. You didn't give it. You did not give that the reverence. You didn't give that the reverence it needed, bro.

Jacci: 01:19:45

Yeah.

Mac: 01:19:45

Like, with the. Yeah.

Intro: 01:19:47

Ban Kai.

Mac: 01:19:48

Like, woah, you did that too fast.

Jacci: 01:19:50

You're you're a bad guy.

EJ: 01:19:52

Yeah. What they do is they hire him and Joy Osman to be up there like

Jacci: 01:19:56

Bad guy.

Mac: 01:19:59

I'm like, no. No. No. No. No.

Mac: 01:20:01

No. Bond card. I need base in that shit my boy.

Jacci: 01:20:05

Me and my sword are best friends. Here he comes. Ben Kai.

Mac: 01:20:11

Roar Zimba Rio! Like oh my god get out of here Rinji. Sorry ass sword. But either way

Jacci: 01:20:17

Why don't you go Tensho?

Jacci: 01:20:21

Like, bitch. Shut up.

Mac: 01:20:23

Yeah. So Use some of that throat. Woah. Sup, ma'am? What are we?

Mac: 01:20:28

Ma'am. This is a family show here. Sir. Bring me that Zimpaku.

Jacci: 01:20:37

Bring me that sword. But sir.

Mac: 01:20:42

Limewire. And so he's like, Limewire, how old are you? Bro, we're all the same age, bro.

Jacci: 01:20:49

Oh my god, that's

Mac: 01:20:50

why I hate my Come on, mixtapes?

Jacci: 01:20:54

Come on.

Jacci: 01:20:54

Man, all the Limewires, man.

Mac: 01:20:55

But, so I mean it, like we said, we showed side by side comparisons, frame, frame, manga, anime, talked about some of the other projects that Science Saru worked on. Saw a trailer for season two. Apparently fifteen July what a lot of these things are dropping on. If that's a Saturday, Lord bless us. Know, Crunchyroll, whatever you're streaming these things

Jacci: 01:21:22

It's something to fill my solo leveling Saturdays with.

Mac: 01:21:26

Are we? No, we're not gonna talk about that. We'll have to have an episode dedicated solo. Because ladies and gentlemen, if you have not seen that, it's late March, I think we saw the fight of the year anime wise. So, that's just me.

Mac: 01:21:44

I'm just one person, but Lord Jesus.

Jacci: 01:21:47

Gave me some Lord. Demon slayer and the sound Hashira

Mac: 01:21:52

Yes.

Jacci: 01:21:53

Episode vibes.

Mac: 01:21:55

Now if we were to compare it to we we need to do an episode where we're just talking about our favorite fights and stuff

Jacci: 01:22:00

like I

EJ: 01:22:01

I think so. Favorite action

Mac: 01:22:02

sequence. Favorite action sequences or something because I'm just bro, this this there's so much stuff for us to talk about in so little time.

EJ: 01:22:09

Yeah. And then also there's the different approaches, like, the the older school the old school idea of some of the anime action. It would be action, but then it'd be still frame. It I don't know how to explain it or or what the actual term is for

Intro: 01:22:26

it. Mhmm.

EJ: 01:22:27

But you would know action is coming, and then when the action happens, they threw a lot of still frames in to convey the action where the newer anime has a lot more movement and flowing and real time action, and they use the blur effect or so forth or lighting effect to change it to to give it more of a a visceral, like, action sequence. But, I mean, I I'm a fan of both because I grew up with the other. You know what I mean? So I'll still like the ones where, yeah, they don't have as much, you know, of the special effects, but it still hit home because they it still conveyed the story well enough that the action was going on. So, I mean, to me, those are the two types of action I I I I've seen the most of is, like, the still frame where they'll they'll shoot a couple still frames to convey that the fight happened.

EJ: 01:23:20

Mhmm. You know? And then now you'll see, like, the blitz and the blades and the the the energy and everything hitting each other in in flashes, and it feels very realistic. I did. When I watched CJ's

Mac: 01:23:35

like he

Jacci: 01:23:35

watched I'm on PBS.

EJ: 01:23:39

CJ, when I watched Voltron, there's only four lions. Okay. That's how old I am.

Mac: 01:23:44

There was no joint Voltron. He just fought his four lions. And if they lost, they lost.

EJ: 01:23:48

We could come together.

Mac: 01:23:50

Arms and legs. We have no body. Oh. Oh, well. But, yeah.

Mac: 01:23:56

So while she's gone, we'll just go ahead. There's one anime I wanna talk. I don't know if Jackie has anything, but there's one that I've been watching that I wanna put on people's radar. I think it's pretty solid. So we'll just roll over to put this on your radar portion and I'll give my little spiel.

Mac: 01:24:24

Again, shout out Kenpachi. I know you're still on the mend and healing up. This whole segment is pretty much based on you putting us onto the up and coming anime. So we're trying to do our due diligence and get on your level when it comes to letting the people know, Hey, this is the new hotness that you might not be tracking. For me- That new hot hot.

Mac: 01:24:46

That new hot hot. What's on the streets? So mine is a anime that I came across, and here's how I came across it. It's called Doctor. Detective.

Mac: 01:24:57

And bottom line up front, it's like if House was an anime. You have a doctor who is very unorthodox with how they go about figuring things out. Her genius level is on a tier nobody's on. So the police department will come to her when there's like weird things going on, investigations and stuff. How did this guy die like this?

Mac: 01:25:22

And she likes taking up the challenge in doing that. But how I came upon this anime was, you know, Spotify is just like, Hey, you anime nerd, one of your favorite anime artists, your J pop artist has a new song and it was Amir. Yep. Yep. I'm just, I listened to it and I'm just like, Oh, this is a banger.

Jacci: 01:25:41

It was a I'm like,

Mac: 01:25:42

this is a banger. I know this is an anime opening. So I Google like what anime does this, is this the theme for? And it brought me to this one. So I'm thinking it's like an action because listen, that song is a banger.

Mac: 01:25:55

The theme for this is lit. You're just like, Oh, this is some shonen type But then you look at it and you're like, What is This this medical drama? What is it's pretty good.

Jacci: 01:26:07

And the main character is super likable too.

Mac: 01:26:09

Oh, did you check out a couple episodes already?

Jacci: 01:26:12

We're on episode three, but I'll get into like what I've been doing for my on the radar. I won't call mine on the radar. There is one I do have on the radar,

Mac: 01:26:20

but I'll wait. It's all good. But yeah, EmekoMD Doctor Detective, let me bring up, I wanna share the trailer so you guys can kinda see what's the goings on over We'll share this tab instead. And we'll bring this up to the screen for you guys to check out. I wish I could

Jacci: 01:26:40

I wonder, is it

Jacci: 01:26:41

Amir or is it Amir? I

Mac: 01:26:44

call her Amir. I say Amir until somebody's like Amir, because I tried looking like, clicking Google, like, what's the pronunciation for that?

Jacci: 01:26:52

Oh, it's Ah May.

Mac: 01:26:54

Is it Ah May?

Jacci: 01:26:56

Just did the whole like, pronunciation for, on Google.

Mac: 01:27:03

Well, That's Google.

Jacci: 01:27:05

M A? M A?

EJ: 01:27:07

I don't know if we could trust Uncle Google on this one.

Jacci: 01:27:09

I don't know, guys. I'm sorry. I don't know if this is

Mac: 01:27:12

But Right. Don't know, guys. Yeah. No, but I mean, it's

Jacci: 01:27:18

pretty And I think Ame.

Mac: 01:27:19

Yep. So the main character is Doctor. Takao Amekou, right? So brilliant yet eccentric doctor of investigative pathology at Tennekai General Hospital, it's named after her father. She's in charge of diagnosing patients in other hospital depart that other hospital departments cannot.

Mac: 01:27:40

So when doctors are just like, I don't know what's wrong, they call her, she comes down at her slides and she's just like, You stupid, it's this, and bounces. Almost like house, I swear to God. But for whatever reason, like, I couldn't get in the house, but I am all in on on this anime for whatever reason. So it starts off the first couple episodes are kinda quick fixes, weird things like that. But then there are some episodes that are three part episodes, like there are three episodes covering one actual investigation.

Mac: 01:28:13

The last not the last one because there's a couple episodes after, but there's a two parter about a kid who has cancer. She thinks she diagnoses one thing to fix them and it's not. Well, he kinda he kinda comes out of it, you know, they test him, he's like, Oh, you don't have cancer anymore, you're free to go. Cancer comes back, he's back in the hospital, and she can't cure him, right? So she goes back to her spot and she's like distraught because she spent time with this kid, she read books to this kid, and she knows this kid is no longer about to be here.

Mac: 01:28:50

Like, his days are numbered. He's asking her to come see him. Please read me this book one last time. I wanna see this doctor. She's like, I can't because this is like, low key the first patient that she's not gonna be able to save.

Mac: 01:29:05

So she's wrecked. I'm wrecked in the living room. I'm just like, God.

Jacci: 01:29:10

Oh no.

Intro: 01:29:13

I haven't

Jacci: 01:29:13

gotten that far yet.

Mac: 01:29:14

Yeah. Episode nine, Jackie, you'll get there. But it's tough and it's also good because like, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with Shonen, there's nothing wrong with Iseka, you know, all of that stuff. But sometimes you just need a break just to watch a nice little drama, something, a little slice of life, something like that. And I think this is my palate cleanser, you know?

Jacci: 01:29:39

Checked it They don't really have a lot of like doctor animes. I don't think, I think, yeah, I don't, I have to really think about the last like doctor that there was one and I don't know if there has been one.

Mac: 01:29:53

And again, with this one, I do the sub dub because it's a newer anime and it's not, it's not, and I'll say this, like how I judge it is if it's, if it's night and day like Dragon Balls, like one is obviously better than the other. And then you have ones like Black Clover where neither is watchable. Right? So this Yeah.

Intro: 01:30:15

That's true.

Mac: 01:30:16

When I tell you to get through Black Clover was a chore. I'm just like, I just need to get to this final fight.

Jacci: 01:30:22

Everybody's just talking But

Mac: 01:30:24

both

EJ: 01:30:25

I think I watched a couple episodes, but it was just

Mac: 01:30:27

The main character is unbearable.

EJ: 01:30:29

Yeah. Not unlikable at all. Yeah.

Mac: 01:30:32

Japanese voice actress and the English voice actress both knock it out the park. So if you have something and you're like, hey, I just need something to just step back, take a break. It comes out Thursdays. It streams Thursdays on Crunchyroll, so it's one of those you don't have to wait till Saturday. Middle of the week, you're like, New episode, let me check it out.

Mac: 01:30:55

I think there's 11 episodes out now. I don't know when they're planning on ending the first season. And then the manga is there's only one volume out. So I think it's kinda they're dependent on the manga to continue in order to, you know, it's not like a backlog of chapters for them to do. So I think it's gonna be one of those, once the manga comes out, it'll take them a time to develop and, you know, storyboard and do all that stuff for the episode to put it out.

Mac: 01:31:25

You wanna read it, you know, the original run started in September of last year up till now, so you can easily catch up and read up to to date stuff. So, yeah. So my on the radar is Emeko, MD, Doctor Detective streaming on Crunchyroll. New episodes every Thursday. What you got, Jackie?

Jacci: 01:31:45

The one that I have is actually one that I mentioned in our on your radar for 2025, basically.

Intro: 01:31:54

Yeah.

Jacci: 01:31:54

But I actually watched one of them, so I wanted to actually talk about it now that it it's finally been out, and that's Zen Shu. So if anyone hasn't watched Zen Shu yet, we kinda talked about it on our last episode. We're like, hey. Here's some animes that we're thinking of looking at, and it was the one about the animator that MAPPA was creating. And we were thinking like it was gonna highlight, like, the struggles and things that, like, animators go through.

Jacci: 01:32:19

I will say that what we thought it was gonna be about, it's just not. It's not what I thought it was gonna be. It is an isekai, so just gonna, like, throw that out there. But it is different, and it has been so much fun to freaking watch and be a part of like, it's about to end. I think the last episode I think it actually just came out, so Steven and I have to watch the last episode.

Jacci: 01:32:46

The colors, everything, the the story, and just what it all is has just been, like, freaking awesome. And the whole concept, and I just absolutely love it. The main character is super likable. And I'll just tell you, like, right away, like, in the beginning, like, normally in isekai, it's like no one ever really says like, yeah, this is wait. What is happening?

Jacci: 01:33:11

What are you playing right now? Is this

Jacci: 01:33:13

the most recent episode? I don't think I've seen this.

Mac: 01:33:16

What do you it's just a trailer. Calm down.

Jacci: 01:33:19

Is it?

Mac: 01:33:20

What are you doing?

Jacci: 01:33:21

Oh my god. Haven't

Intro: 01:33:22

seen it.

Mac: 01:33:23

It's like Ladies and gentlemen, live reaction. Look at this. Look at Jackie being taken off She

EJ: 01:33:29

almost had a she almost had a a Defcon moment there. It was about to about to go down.

Jacci: 01:33:35

Dude, it's just the animation's crazy, and it it's really a cool concept. A normal isekai is when people go there, they don't really say like, I'm from another world and all this stuff. In this one, she's straight up like, y'all are from a movie. I've been reincarnated. This is who you are.

Jacci: 01:33:53

And they're like, this bitch is crazy. She's like, no. I'm not. By the way, like, y'all are gonna die. And it's it's like a whole thing, but it's the character, like, she she it does go through her struggles as an animator.

Jacci: 01:34:08

It shows sometimes when she gets in a writer's block and the pressure that she feels and how she faces that now in this new world sometimes and and go through her childhood sometimes and Yeah. Like, why she wanted to be an animator, how important it was to her and her connection, how she is connected to this specific world that she got put into and why without me kinda giving away because it was it was kind of a twist that I wasn't expecting. And there is romance in it, but it's not as, like, cliche or anything. It it's just really, really nice and the animation. And everyone says, like, from the last episode that got released, I read some reviews.

Jacci: 01:34:51

People are like, yo. Like, if you haven't watched Zenshu yet, this is a freaking masterpiece. It's it's real like, it's just for people who just really just love anime, have a super love for anime, this is just the show to watch for you because it just makes you realize how much you love it. And I've been loving it. Steven and I have been really liking it.

Jacci: 01:35:09

It's different. The the opening is super awesome. The ending is even better. I always like it when some songs I just realized we didn't talk about the ending on Dan to Dan, but whatever. Look it up.

Jacci: 01:35:21

The the opening's cool, but the ending on this one, I always like when endings have like a I forget which anime did this. I think it was Angel's Beats did this where they have like a instead of prolongating the notes, like holding on to the I forget what that pedal is called on a piano that allows the note to go, but it's like they're doing really quick like, and then it goes like really fast and it gets into this like like, kinda beat piano thing, and it I I don't know. It's a really good ending. I didn't really look up the songs for it, but you should totally watch it. It's really great.

Jacci: 01:36:05

Other ones I've been watching that I think people should watch is Orb on the Movements of the Earth. It's on Netflix.

Mac: 01:36:11

Been hearing about that one.

Jacci: 01:36:13

Oh my gosh. Also

EJ: 01:36:15

You mentioned that before. Yeah.

Jacci: 01:36:16

Not what I expected either. I would say by the third episode, and I'm not even gonna spoil it. I don't even wanna talk about it. Just even people on Reddit, they're like, not even gonna tell you about it. Just watch it blind.

Jacci: 01:36:28

You have to watch it going in blind. It the writing and even the style where it gives me full metal alchemist brotherhood vibes alongside, like I mean, the art style kinda gives me Attack on Titan and then also gives me a little bit of I'm trying to think what else. Can't think of what else off the top of my head, but just it's a lot of science. It's based off of the heliocentric model and just back in the day how it was blasphemy to ever discuss the fact that what Plato came out with initially about the geocentric model that there that it could be different because back then, the church was very like the earth is the center and this place where you're living is hell and where you're gonna go afterwards when you die, that's actually heaven. So people didn't really like believe they could enjoy the life that they were in currently because they were just trying to redeem themselves because everyone's just full of sin so they can get to to heaven, basically.

Jacci: 01:37:31

And the fact that you would think that Earth isn't the center of all that, that was straight blasphemy. You're going against church. If they found out you were researching anything like that, they would take you and they would kill you. Or just kinda like

Mac: 01:37:42

It's like, oh, wow.

Intro: 01:37:43

So low.

Jacci: 01:37:43

A little bit about what this is around and even reading the excerpt, that's kinda what it talks about. That's all I'll say. We are still, like, in the beginning of it because my other one, and this is why I don't wanna say it's on the radar, is I just started watching Invincible. I I just started watching it. I'm on season I'm on season three.

Jacci: 01:38:02

I'm on episode four. Just took me a while to get into it. I finally decided to get into it and I fucking love it.

Mac: 01:38:09

I mean, must have powered you're on season three. You powered through. I thought you had

Jacci: 01:38:13

like I started watching

Mac: 01:38:13

it over the weekend. And Omni Man just killed his guy. Like, you're you're so far back.

Jacci: 01:38:19

Yeah. I I started watching it over the weekend. So I'm now on season three.

Mac: 01:38:23

That finale?

Jacci: 01:38:23

I I really I binged it. I'm not on I'm not the finale, but Steven keeps watching it with me. He's like, I just want you to get to the last episode. And I

Jacci: 01:38:32

was like, I know. I know. I'm getting there.

Mac: 01:38:34

Peak. Peak.

Jacci: 01:38:35

Yeah. Well, that's actually why I wanted to start watching it because I saw I've been wanting to but

Mac: 01:38:40

Right.

Jacci: 01:38:41

I don't know why it had a different idea of

Mac: 01:38:43

what was Was it the post when it was like this was a 9.9 on IMD?

Jacci: 01:38:47

Yeah. It was like nine point yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Intro: 01:38:48

You're like, oh, I gotta

Mac: 01:38:49

see what this shit is about.

Jacci: 01:38:50

Damn. I probably really I mean, I was seeing things already like that coming out, but I kept ignoring it because I'm like, well, I don't know if I like superhero opportunities like that. Got it. I don't Sometimes I'm like weird about it.

Intro: 01:39:01

Yes. Oh, you sound like

Jacci: 01:39:03

that one

Jacci: 01:39:04

would be. To to CJ what he said. Yep. Yep. But I'm so mad at the same time that I waited so long to watch it, but Steven kept telling me, he's like, Jack, now that you finished season one, imagine, the fucking creators waited four years before they came out or, like, three years before they came out with season two.

Jacci: 01:39:21

Was like, that's how they ended it? That's bullshit. Now I get to watch it back to back. So

Mac: 01:39:25

Use your mind.

Jacci: 01:39:27

Yeah, dude.

Jacci: 01:39:28

So now season two, same thing. When they ended season two, I looked at see Steven. I was like, that's how they ended season two? That was stupid. I miss my wife.

Mac: 01:39:37

I'm like, what? Do to capture a fraction of her power. Like, the way season one ended, I'm like, yo, what the? Give me But

Jacci: 01:39:46

season two, how it ended was bullshit. He's like, I miss my wife. End. I'm like, what? This is dumb.

Jacci: 01:39:53

If I You were mad,

Mac: 01:39:55

but

Intro: 01:39:55

then season I'd be

Mac: 01:39:56

pissed. You were mad, but then season three came out. You're like, okay.

Jacci: 01:39:59

But then I was like, oh, I can just go to season three. That was great.

Intro: 01:40:01

Yeah. So

Mac: 01:40:01

You weren't like us that were sitting there like, what the fuck is And then you go and just read the fucking comics, which is what I Yeah.

EJ: 01:40:08

You can read the comic and you'll

Mac: 01:40:09

know. That's exact

Jacci: 01:40:10

But, yeah.

Mac: 01:40:10

I was like, I need to know what's up.

Jacci: 01:40:12

So that's why I'm behind on orbs.

Mac: 01:40:14

So No worries.

Jacci: 01:40:15

Gonna go back to it soon. But, like, dude, even, like, the first, like

Mac: 01:40:19

I will

Jacci: 01:40:20

like, dude, it's it's it's really, really good. It's a it's different.

Mac: 01:40:24

Yeah.

Jacci: 01:40:24

It's very different. Oh, To Your Eternity. That's what I was gonna say. It reminds me of it. The story of To Your Eternity.

Jacci: 01:40:32

Uh-huh. If you ever watch that anime, super good also, but just like the differences with it. And you'll see when you watch it, like, just gives me a lot of those vibes. It's really, like, really good.

Mac: 01:40:44

Yeah. I will say I it's good that Deontay, you know, shout out Deontay. He was gonna join us, but he something came up at work. He was one of the biggest components of of not liking Invincible saying the animation was bad, all this other stuff. This was earlier, like season one.

Mac: 01:41:01

I'm just like, bro, what are you talking about? Like, I I will I will die on this hill. Invincible is is

EJ: 01:41:08

Yeah. They did an excellent job bringing it to.

Mac: 01:41:11

Get I get it. I'm not a big Seth Rogen fan. I'm not even But

Jacci: 01:41:16

I like I actually like his character, though, a lot. He's one of my favorites.

Mac: 01:41:19

Oh, yeah. Alan A. Yeah. He's

Jacci: 01:41:21

he's Dude, he's my favorite. I'm like, I love this guy.

Mac: 01:41:23

But like anytime Seth Rogan's names or something like, I don't know. And and like, I'm still indifferent.

EJ: 01:41:28

Coolest guy in the world, but it's just something about

Mac: 01:41:31

I mean, I'm I'm still indifferent on on his take on what he's doing with the Ninja Turtles with this new mutant mayhem. Like, I like the youthful aspect. Yeah, these are kids. They're teenagers. They're not grown men.

Mac: 01:41:44

They were teenagers in the eighties cartoons, but I felt like they're damn near adults because the only one that gave me teenager vibes was Michelangelo. But in this new one, the Mutant Mayhem, like they're all kids, like 13, 14 year olds wanting to do 13, 14 year old stuff. So I get that. It's just I'm trying to see where he's taking it. Like, I'm just not, you know.

Mac: 01:42:07

Because, you know, I'm coming off of Lash Ronan. I'm reading the comics and I'm

EJ: 01:42:10

just like, and then we Yeah. That's a lot more

Mac: 01:42:13

I'm like, ugh, I want more

EJ: 01:42:14

Last Ronan's more

Mac: 01:42:15

Violets and death. Yeah. But I mean, it's a

EJ: 01:42:19

I would say that Alas Ronan has a lot of anchors in drama.

Mac: 01:42:24

Oh, yeah.

EJ: 01:42:25

And because normally, you've got most of the fans who've already read or been following Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles since the eighties. Yeah. So, they don't need all the action and backstory. So when you're getting here

Mac: 01:42:37

I mean, when you start

EJ: 01:42:38

established characters who fans are in love with. Mhmm. And now the drama unfolds as you're watching what happens when these characters that you've loved and known for so long are all gone save one.

Mac: 01:42:51

Yeah.

EJ: 01:42:51

You know? And how that wouldn't you know, how you would feel just watching it and then how you think that that particular survivor feels. So I think, like, it that's why that's so good. And then to go back and see stuff that's kinda trying to reintroduce Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles to this generation, it's not gonna be

Intro: 01:43:10

on the same level.

Mac: 01:43:11

Which which I'm all for, you know? Like, if kids are are gravitate towards it and you got a new audience coming up, do it. Yeah. And you know, I'll be content with reading and following the lore of, because I mean, you're leading, I mean, the premise of this one, three of the turtles have died, one's left. Like instantly you're like, Who the fuck is it?

Mac: 01:43:32

Who like, Which one is it? Who is it? What happened to the other turtles? Like, that was me. And then I go to the theater to watch this new one.

Mac: 01:43:39

I wasn't a fan, but like I said, it wasn't for me.

EJ: 01:43:42

Yeah, opening a door.

Mac: 01:43:44

So I'm not gonna be like, not my turtles hashtag, not my turtles. Like, it's not for me. You know, I got the comics and stuff and I can easily go back in Hulu and watch the other ones. I'm cool. But that's all we got for On the Radar.

EJ: 01:44:01

Actually, I just wanna throw something out I know initially I didn't do my homework, so I wanna apologize ahead of time. But since we're talking about it, it started to jog my memory. Not only did, you know, we discussed some of these in this episode where we were kinda what to look forward to for 2025. This one was about to be on that for me, but I didn't go there. And it's to be hero x.

Jacci: 01:44:26

Oh, yep. I know what's come up.

EJ: 01:44:27

It comes out next month. And just from the little bit of what I've seen, action action packed, but it's a it's a it's it's it's a story like super powered or super powered warriors fighting for the I don't know. Hero x. Basically, like, being the top one to prove yourself. And it's a, you know, kind of a play on you can be you can be

Jacci: 01:44:55

sick. Like, looks super sick.

EJ: 01:44:58

That's what I mean. They I that's why I was like, it is on my radar. And when Willie asked it, it just popped in my head again because I didn't initially do the homework because I I was still reading on Dan to Dan,

Intro: 01:45:07

and I

EJ: 01:45:07

I forgot to even bring it up. The the I spent a lot of time reading about Oh

Mac: 01:45:12

my god.

EJ: 01:45:12

The food on Dandedan. So but yeah. The to be hero x just seems like a very high energy, but also very relatable story of trying to to achieve your maximum potential and then to show everyone that your potential. So that seems to be the basis behind it all. But it it looks cool.

EJ: 01:45:42

I I'm interested in the the storyline because the characters seem extremely diverse, and that was what drew me to to checking it out in the first place. Was just that, you know, normally, they'll all stick them either in a fantasy kinda setting for the hero look or a futuristic one. This one, it just seems like it reminds me of some of those video games where you can get all sorts of different skins. Some of them

Mac: 01:46:03

don't even match. It looked like a the character selection screen for a for a video game, fighting game.

EJ: 01:46:11

It's like exactly. It's like

Jacci: 01:46:13

Or like this. Like You know?

Intro: 01:46:15

Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. You're waiting for it.

EJ: 01:46:18

But that and I mentioned I didn't mention to be hero x because I mentioned Lazarus. And just seeing some of the stuff now that's like follow ups leading up to its release in April Mhmm. I know I'm gonna I'm gonna be hooked, I think everyone else should check it out. I mean, if you haven't before, even just looking up Lazarus and seeing some of the the clips and some of the trailers and projections for this when it comes out. If you were a fan of Cowboy Bebop, if you like music and action and the way that these characters are drawn and flow, it's a it's a it's it's very reflective to to, like, real human action.

EJ: 01:46:56

So that's why I I've always enjoyed it, especially back with Cowboy Bebop. You never saw anything like I mean, it's extreme. These you're you're showing people with extreme skill, but, I mean, it was never like, you know, someone punching someone into the moon. So it was very, you know

Mac: 01:47:12

It was a dragon ball.

EJ: 01:47:13

You think you're

Mac: 01:47:14

strong, you can't even destroy your planet. Like

Intro: 01:47:17

Yeah.

Mac: 01:47:17

Exactly. How you're gauging power?

EJ: 01:47:19

You're not watching a guy sweat and prepare to throw a Kamehameha. Right. And just for three episodes. Yeah.

Jacci: 01:47:25

Yeah.

EJ: 01:47:26

Okay. You're watching a guy who's good with a gun, good with his hands, and he's trying to just, you know, get through a situation. And and I like I liked the flow of the action. It is rare. And then when you see that with Lazarus, it seems along the same key.

EJ: 01:47:39

Plus, I love the way they incorporate music. It's just a to the scene. It's it's great. But those are my two on the radar. Sorry.

EJ: 01:47:46

I didn't do my homework.

Mac: 01:47:47

No. It's all good.

EJ: 01:47:48

I got

Mac: 01:47:48

to be hero x. That's danded in rabbit hole of food. Yeah. That was my first, that was my first time seeing to be hero X. Wasn't even tracking So the trailer automatically, when you're going from the two d to the three d animation styles, like it's almost like those games where you like just go from like two d to three d, like when that started being a thing, like just changing the dimensions of anything.

Mac: 01:48:14

But cool. Sounds like a nice slate of on your radar. Make sure you put those on there and let us know what you think. If you have some anime suggestions for us that you would like us to check out, throw them in the comments and let us know. But we are on to returning to our regularly scheduled programming, and we'll just go ahead and wrap up episode 13.

Mac: 01:48:34

What you eating over there? I saw you grab something to eat. It's alright.

Jacci: 01:48:54

We made some gochujang chicken

Mac: 01:48:59

Oh.

Jacci: 01:48:59

With rice and asparagus.

Mac: 01:49:02

You guys missing Korea a little bit,

Jacci: 01:49:04

Oh, yeah.

Mac: 01:49:05

Little bit.

Jacci: 01:49:05

Like the I I bought some I've been trying to get some Korean staples and stock up my fridge as well as, like, my pantry so that way anytime you just, like, want some, like, crispy chicken or something, You can just grab that, make it really quick, then bam.

Mac: 01:49:21

Nice.

Jacci: 01:49:21

Got Korea in my kitchen.

Mac: 01:49:23

Nice. Cool. Cool. So, yeah, that wraps up episode 13. We talked about Dandan.

Mac: 01:49:29

Excited for the second season coming in July, as well as everything else coming this summer. This summer is about to be on it Eat The Cake and for anime as a whole. I will say, me personally, and this is just me, I am trying to track as many anime conventions as I can to try to see what I can make, what I can't make, so we can kinda get out there, get some on scene coverage, possibly break some kinda news before it gets out to other media and stuff like that. Just give you behind the scenes stuff. So that's what I'm kind of focusing on this year.

Mac: 01:50:07

Hopefully, we can make that work. It'd be dope if at least one of these things, all three of us can make it out there and kinda cover live on scene, get a press pass and all that glorious stuff that Voice. Shows like this do. But I know VIP. VIP?

Mac: 01:50:26

That's what we need?

Jacci: 01:50:28

I'll try.

Mac: 01:50:28

Okay. I trust you. I'm leaving it to you, Jackie, since you're in Vegas. You got all the connects. You're good.

Jacci: 01:50:34

Oh, yeah. Super.

Mac: 01:50:36

But that's all we got over here at Eat The Cake Anime. We just dropped the the YouTube channel out there. So make sure to swing by. We're populating that. We will, or I was thinking, you know, we'll do some more smaller segments.

Mac: 01:50:50

I think kind of just off the top of my head, just picking a couple of anime fights to just review, look at, and talk about how amazing they are. Probably come up with a cool segment for that as well or something like that. That'll just we'll record it and then throw it over on the the the YouTube channel. But I know Eric has some stuff coming up. We have as far as DFPN as a whole, it's almost TTRPG time, man.

Mac: 01:51:17

So how's that coming along?

EJ: 01:51:18

It's pretty good. I'm finishing up the last touches, putting some stuff together, but Knox Eterna should be ready to roll on the fifth at Saturday. So that's what we're looking for.

Mac: 01:51:33

And that'll be streamed live for patrons. Correct? Yes. Okay. Cool.

Mac: 01:51:39

So, I mean, looking at probably about the same three, four hour gaming sessions, four hours, a little bit more than that, and then they'll chop them up into the smaller bites for the general public. But if you wanna get in live and watch them play and interact with the characters as they're playing, $3 a month right now to get over on the Patreon.

Jacci: 01:51:59

Three doll hairs. That's it.

Mac: 01:52:01

$3 a month to get in there and watch them stream this thing live and

EJ: 01:52:05

get access to a whole lot of stuff.

Mac: 01:52:07

Yes. All right. And again, like the amount of effort that goes into that is not unnoticed, bro. Like after the fallen star thing and I'm seeing all this stuff you're doing, I'm like, Jesus Christ, bro.

EJ: 01:52:19

It's Yeah.

Mac: 01:52:19

It's it's a it's a monumental lift. So we appreciate you bringing that that talent and those skills over and sharing them with us over here at DFPM, man.

EJ: 01:52:27

Absolutely glad to do it.

Mac: 01:52:29

Cool. All right. So unless you guys got any last parting shots before we bid a due to all our fellow anime heads out here. No? Cool.

Mac: 01:52:39

All right. Ladies and gentlemen, for those that rocked with us tonight, we appreciate you guys. Again, as always, if you're watching this on YouTube and not live, join in, throw some stuff in the comments, we'll check-in on those and we'll respond and all that stuff. We wanna build a community over here. And looking forward to doing some future episodes collabing with some more anime podcasts and kind of growing the brand that way and growing the community because, you know, it's a good time to be a fan of anime.

Mac: 01:53:06

A lot of good stuff coming Oh yeah. So with that being said, I'm the homie Mac, AKA your boy, joined by the homie Jackie, AKA, do you still do the Jack attack thing? Is that?

Jacci: 01:53:18

I don't, I don't like that. I gotta think of something.

Mac: 01:53:21

Yeah. When you were doing that with Saturday Night Nerds, I was like, I don't know how I feel about that.

Jacci: 01:53:25

I'm not very creative. I'll figure out something.

EJ: 01:53:28

We'll come up we'll come up with a nickname or something.

Jacci: 01:53:31

Okay. I I mean, shit. Like, my nickname on fucking what what's the oh my god. This is how you know you're getting old. Simple words just escape your brain.

Jacci: 01:53:46

Discord. On Discord, my name is Pixie. Like

Mac: 01:53:50

First of all, Jackie, like, you just turned 30 or some shit. Calm the fuck down.

Jacci: 01:53:55

I'm 31. I'm about to be 32.

EJ: 01:53:59

I don't know how. Do you have your doji.

Jacci: 01:54:01

Do you have doji.

Jacci: 01:54:03

Come breathe with me.

Mac: 01:54:04

Are you are you getting your AARP ready?

Intro: 01:54:07

I know.

Mac: 01:54:08

Calm it down.

Jacci: 01:54:09

35

Intro: 01:54:09

check that check

Jacci: 01:54:10

that full think of something.

Jacci: 01:54:12

I'm a figure out something cool. Do something. I'm a figure it out because I'm trying to I've been trying to find out what's my staple name so I can use it on everything. Because right now, the one on my Steam is Jajuicy, and I hate that Woah. As much as everything else.

Intro: 01:54:25

Yeah. Yeah. Look at Eric's I

Jacci: 01:54:29

don't know, man.

Mac: 01:54:29

Yeah. Jajuicy? No. We're not. I'm not calling you that on

Intro: 01:54:33

on Smollett.

Jacci: 01:54:33

I'm also not using Bitty because I don't I don't wanna

Mac: 01:54:35

use my freaking Smollett.

Jacci: 01:54:38

Nickname. That's stupid.

EJ: 01:54:40

Yeah. Not not.

Mac: 01:54:42

Oh, good.

EJ: 01:54:43

Sounds too close to Diddy. We're not rolling with that either. So

Jacci: 01:54:47

Yeah. I'm not a fan.

EJ: 01:54:49

No Betty Diddy. None. None. None.

Jacci: 01:54:51

She not a fan. She not a fan.

Mac: 01:54:54

But wait. And then, of course, we got my man, EJ. Appreciate you guys tuning in. Until next time, we'll figure out a date, and we'll let you know when it is. But are we cool with doing because I know I have to do it in the chat.

Mac: 01:55:11

Next episode, top three villains? Yeah.

Jacci: 01:55:16

Oh, dude. That'd be sick.

EJ: 01:55:18

I'm already into that.

Mac: 01:55:20

Three villains it is. Top three villains. Be on the lookout. We'll throw a post in and you guys, we want max participation on this.

EJ: 01:55:29

Wanna know what You guys come and show, tell us what you guys got.

Mac: 01:55:31

Your top three villains are. Villains. All anime. Now are we talking villains or are we gonna allow them to throw anti heroes in there? Do we just want

EJ: 01:55:41

I think the anti heroes should stand alone because anime's got so many of those.

Mac: 01:55:46

So many anti heroes. Yeah.

Jacci: 01:55:47

I mean, they Yeah.

Jacci: 01:55:48

I think I think we should straight up just go to the dark side. Like, straight up The worst of the worst. Not even in that

EJ: 01:55:56

area. Open a car 18 car pile up. These are the fools that deserve whatever happened. You ain't even you you know? No brake lights.

EJ: 01:56:04

Nothing. You just keep keep moving. Keep moving.

Jacci: 01:56:07

The ones that take babies and just pop pop pop.

EJ: 01:56:11

Just keep it pushing. I don't know. Some of the older anime that's funny you said it. But there's one where I can't remember, but it's the all these demons or oni or devils are released all over through Japan. And there's a scene where it's just straight up eating this little baby girl for, like, two minutes and you're just like.

Jacci: 01:56:29

Yeah, dude. Nineties animes were dope, man.

EJ: 01:56:31

I was just like, oh.

Mac: 01:56:32

The OVAs before like anime series were a thing and they're just like, bro,

EJ: 01:56:37

we got ninety minutes. Blood and gore and little kid parts falling. You're like,

Mac: 01:56:41

oh my god. This is

Jacci: 01:56:43

No one.

Mac: 01:56:43

We got a hundred we got a hundred minutes to tell this story. Let's go all in.

Jacci: 01:56:48

There's no heroes here. Everyone's dying.

EJ: 01:56:50

Cool. Everybody die. And you're just like, wow. I need therapy now. I need to actually go and talk to someone about my

Jacci: 01:56:57

I do. Let's talk about

Mac: 01:56:58

Yep.

Intro: 01:56:58

That. So, yeah. Scroll.

Mac: 01:57:01

Episode, we'll be giving you our top three villains. So make sure to tune in for that. Stay tuned. We'll let you know when that is. And stand by for the post because we wanna know who your top three villains are.

Jacci: 01:57:14

Yeah.

Mac: 01:57:14

And if you jump in here talking about Shel Tucker, I'm gonna be like, come on guys. Come on. Like, I get it, but he's not a villain. He's just a fucking asshole. You know?

Mac: 01:57:26

That deserved to die. So that's what we got coming up next. Stay tuned for the date. We'll be signing off. Please enjoy the anime you wanna enjoy.

Mac: 01:57:36

Even if it's Hentai, no judgment zone here. Do your thing. And we'll holler at you guys next time.

Jacci: 01:57:42

Don't give away your banana.

Mac: 01:57:48

Peace.